Re: use of the term "verifier" with SCRAM - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Heikki Linnakangas
Subject Re: use of the term "verifier" with SCRAM
Date
Msg-id fbb1575d-6c68-0bb1-46e8-3df49298963c@iki.fi
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In response to use of the term "verifier" with SCRAM  (Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>)
Responses Re: use of the term "verifier" with SCRAM
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On 14/08/2019 08:59, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> I'm confused by how the code uses the term "verifier" in relation to SCRAM.
> 
> ISTM that the code uses the term as meaning whatever is or would be
> stored in pg_auth.rolpassword.
> 
> I don't see this usage supported in the RFCs.  In RFC 5802,
> 
>      verifier        = "v=" base64
>                      ;; base-64 encoded ServerSignature.
> 
> where
> 
>      ServerSignature := HMAC(ServerKey, AuthMessage)
>      ServerKey       := HMAC(SaltedPassword, "Server Key")
>      AuthMessage     := client-first-message-bare + "," +
>                         server-first-message + "," +
>                         client-final-message-without-proof
> 
> whereas what is stored in rolpassword is
> 
>      SCRAM-SHA-256$<iterations>:<salt>$<storedkey>:<serverkey>
> 
> where
> 
>      StoredKey       := H(ClientKey)
>      ClientKey       := HMAC(SaltedPassword, "Client Key")
> 
> So while these are all related, I don't think it's accurate to call what
> is in rolpassword a SCRAM "verifier".

Huh, you're right.

> RFC 5803 is titled "Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP) Schema
> for Storing Salted Challenge Response Authentication Mechanism (SCRAM)
> Secrets".  Following that, I think calling the contents of rolpassword a
> "secret" or a "stored secret" would be better.

RFC 5802 uses the term "Authentication information". See section "2.1 
Terminology":

    o  Authentication information: Information used to verify an identity
       claimed by a SCRAM client.  The authentication information for a
       SCRAM identity consists of salt, iteration count, "StoredKey" and
       "ServerKey" (as defined in the algorithm overview) for each
       supported cryptographic hash function.

But I agree that "secret", as used in RFC5803 is better.

- Heikki



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