Re: [GENERAL] Help with restoring a dump in Tar format?(dependencies/ordering) - Mailing list pgsql-general

From John R Pierce
Subject Re: [GENERAL] Help with restoring a dump in Tar format?(dependencies/ordering)
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Msg-id dba05f39-22f8-03f7-1e7d-3a542679f83c@hogranch.com
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In response to Re: [GENERAL] Help with restoring a dump in Tar format? (dependencies/ordering)  ("David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>)
Responses Re: [GENERAL] Help with restoring a dump in Tar format? (dependencies/ordering)  ("David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>)
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On 6/5/2017 5:32 PM, David G. Johnston wrote:
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Ken Tanzer <ken.tanzer@gmail.com> wrote:  
From the docs:
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.6/static/sql-createtable.html
"Currently, CHECK expressions cannot contain subqueries nor refer to variables other than columns of the current row. The system column tableoid may be referenced, but not any other system column.

I wonder if that should say "should not," or be followed by something like this:


Make it say "must not" and I'd agree to change the word "cannot" and leave the rest.  Adding a note regarding functions seems appropriate.

Aside from being a bit more verbose there is nothing useful that writing this as "CHECK function()" provides that you don't also get by writing "CREATE TRIGGER". In a green field we'd probably lock down CHECK a bit more but there is too much code that is technically wrong but correctly functioning that we don't want to break.  IOW, we cannot mandate that the supplied function be immutable even though we should.  And we don't even enforce immutable execution if a function is defined that way.


indeed, any sort of constraint that invokes a function call which looks at other tables could later be invalidated if those other tables change, and postgres would be none the smarter.   the same goes for trigger based checks.



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john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cruz

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