Re: PoC: history of recent vacuum/checkpoint runs (using new hooks) - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Tomas Vondra
Subject Re: PoC: history of recent vacuum/checkpoint runs (using new hooks)
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In response to Re: PoC: history of recent vacuum/checkpoint runs (using new hooks)  (Jim Nasby <jnasby@upgrade.com>)
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On 12/30/24 22:40, Jim Nasby wrote:
> On Dec 25, 2024, at 11:25 AM, Tomas Vondra <tomas@vondra.me> wrote:
>> But maybe it'd be possible to just write the entries to a file. We don't
>> need random access to past entries (unlike e.g. pg_stat_statements), and
>> people won't query that very often either.
> 
> Assuming this doesn’t add significant complexity I think file-based
> would be the best way to go. It allows for more meaningful retention
> policies (ie, “1 month”) that don’t equate to storage size. More
> importantly, it removes the need to try and scale these limits based on
> hardware. While 128MB isn’t a huge amount on modern hardware, it’s also
> not nothing (especially if it can’t be swapped). This is especially true
> in an environment with a lot of small database instances (ie, at work
> our default instance has 8GB of memory, and it’d be nice to reduce that
> even more).
> 

True, although I'd point out the 128MB was meant to be a maximum for a
GUC, not the default. The default in the patch was 1MB, and with a lots
of instances on the same machine, those can't be very active so this
would probably be enough.

Anyway, with the simple file-based solution this would go away.


> Speaking of retention, it would be nice if this feature allowed users to
> DELETE from the view that presented the data. That would allow for any
> kind of custom config that someone could dream up.

I really don't intend / want to do that. That significantly increases
the complexity, turning an append-only file into something that's
essentially almost a regular table. Yes, even with the append-only file
there's need to be a way to deal with dropped objects, but supporting
arbitrary deletes seems much more demanding.

There should be a way to reset the stats, of course. But only a fairly
coarse one.


regards

-- 
Tomas Vondra




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