Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Fabien COELHO
Subject Re: checkpointer continuous flushing
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Msg-id alpine.DEB.2.10.1509091042290.3177@sto
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In response to Re: checkpointer continuous flushing  (Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>)
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Hello Amit,

>> I think that we may conclude, on these run:
>>
>> (1) sorting seems not to harm performance, and may help a lot.
>
> I agree with first part, but about helping a lot, I am not sure

I'm focussing on the "sort" dimension alone, that is I'm comparing the 
average tps performance with sorting with the same test without sorting, : 
There are 4 cases from your tests, if I'm not mistaken:
 - T1 flush=off  27480 -> 27482 :    +0.0% - T1 flush=on   25214 -> 26819 :    +6.3% - T2 flush=off   5050 ->  6194 :
+22.6%- T2 flush=on    2771 ->  6110 :  +120.4%
 

The average improvement induced by sort=on is +50%, if you do not agree on 
"a lot", maybe we can agree on "significantly":-)

> based on the tests conducted by me, among all the runs, it has shown 
> improvement in average TPS is one case and that too with a dip in number 
> of times the TPS is below 10.

>> (2) Linux flushing with sync_file_range may degrade a little raw tps
>>     average in some case, but definitely improves performance stability
>>     (always 100% availability when on !).
>
> Agreed, I think the benefit is quite clear, but it would be better if we try
> to do some more test for the cases (data fits in shared_buffers) where
> we saw small regression just to make sure that regression is small.

I've already reported a lot of tests (several hundred of hours on two 
different hosts), and I did not have such a dip, but the hardware was more 
"usual" or "casual", really different from your runs.

If you can run more tests, great!

I think that the main safeguard to handle the (small) uncertainty is to 
keep gucs to control these features.

>> (3) posix_fadvise on Linux is a bad idea... the good news is that it
>>     is not needed there:-) How good or bad an idea it is on other system
>>     is an open question...
>
> I don't know what is the best way to verify that, if some body else has
> access to such a m/c, please help to get that verified.

Yep. There has been such calls on this thread which were not very 
effective, up to now.

-- 
Fabien.



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