Re: [DOCS] Confusing Trigger Docs. - Mailing list pgsql-docs

From Bruce Momjian
Subject Re: [DOCS] Confusing Trigger Docs.
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Msg-id ZV1g6BsylqHAFYEL@momjian.us
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In response to Re: [DOCS] Confusing Trigger Docs.  (Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>)
Responses Re: [DOCS] Confusing Trigger Docs.  (Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>)
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On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 09:22:22AM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 6:25 AM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul  3, 2017 at 08:07:10PM +0000, neil@fairwindsoft.com wrote:
> >> The following documentation comment has been logged on the website:
> >>
> >> Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.6/static/trigger-definition.html
> >> Description:
> >>
> >> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/trigger-definition.html
> >>
> >> This sentence:
> >>
> >> "If an INSERT contains an ON CONFLICT DO UPDATE clause, it is possible that
> >> the effects of all row-level BEFORE INSERT triggers and all row-level BEFORE
> >> UPDATE triggers can both be applied in a way that is apparent from the final
> >> state of the updated row, if an EXCLUDED column is referenced."
> >>
> >> is very hard to digest.
> 
> EXCLUDED.* is exactly what the name suggests -- the tuple that was not
> inserted because of a conflict. So, naturally it has the effects of
> any before insert trigger, and carries them forward. But you still
> have before triggers on the update side.
> 
> Typically, this won't matter at all, because before triggers tend to
> be written in an idempotent fashion -- something gets filled in. But I
> can imagine cases where it is not idempotent, and apply a before
> update trigger modifies the row in a way that is surprising. Just
> because ON CONFLICT DO UPDATE was used rather than UPDATE. That's what
> the documentation warns about.

I know this thread is six years old, but I still found it confusing, so
the attached patch tries to simplify it.

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