Re: PG 16 draft release notes ready - Mailing list pgsql-hackers
From | Bruce Momjian |
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Subject | Re: PG 16 draft release notes ready |
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Msg-id | ZGasD7blbSRqeoM9@momjian.us Whole thread Raw |
In response to | Re: PG 16 draft release notes ready (Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>) |
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Re: PG 16 draft release notes ready
Re: PG 16 draft release notes ready |
List | pgsql-hackers |
On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 02:53:25PM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 1:49 PM Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote: > > I will adjust it to the feedback I receive; that URL will quickly show > > all updates. > > > > I learned a few things creating it this time: > > > > * I can get confused over C function names and SQL function names in > > commit messages. > > The commit history covering pg_walinspect was complicated. Some of the > newly added stuff was revised multiple times, by multiple authors due > to changing ideas about the best UI. Here is some concrete feedback > about that: > > * Two functions that were in 15 that each end in *_till_end_of_wal() > were removed for 16, since the same functionality is now provided > through a more intuitive UI: we now tolerate invalid end_lsn values > "from the future", per a new "Tip" in the pg_walinspect documentation > for 16. > > In my opinion this should (at most) be covered as a compatibility > item. It's not really new functionality. So, I looked at this and the problem is that this is best as a single release note entry because we are removing and adding, and if I moved it to compatibility, I am concerned the new feature will be missed. Since WAL inspection is a utility operation, inn general, I think having it in the pg_walinspect section makes the most sense. > * There is one truly new pg_walinspect function added to 16: > pg_get_wal_block_info(). Its main purpose is to see how each > individual block changed -- it's far easier to track how blocks > changed over time using the new function. The original "record > orientated" functions made that very difficult (regex hacks were > required). > > pg_get_wal_block_info first appeared under another name, and had > somewhat narrower functionality to the final version, all of which > shouldn't matter to users -- since they never saw a stable release > with any of that. There is no point in telling users about the commits > that changed the name/functionality of pg_get_wal_block_info that came > only a couple of months after the earliest version was commited -- to > users, it is simply a new function with new functionality. Right. > I also suggest merging the pg_waldump items with the section you've > added covering pg_walinspect. A "pg_walinspect and pg_waldump" section > seems natural to me. Some of the enhancements in this area benefit > pg_walinspect and pg_waldump in exactly the same way, since > pg_walinspect is essentially a backend/SQL interface equivalent of > pg_waldump's frontend/CLI interface. Melanie's work on improving the > descriptions output for WAL records like Heap's PRUNE and VACUUM > records is a great example of this -- it does exactly the same thing > for pg_walinspect and pg_waldump, without directly targeting either > (it also affects the wal_debug developer option). Well, pg_waldump is an installed binary while pg_walinspect is an extension, so I am not sure where I would put a merged section. > It might also make sense to say that the enhanced WAL record > descriptions from Melanie generally apply to records used by VACUUM > only. Okay, I went with: Improve descriptions of pg_walinspect WAL record descriptions (Melanie Plageman, Peter Geoghegan) > Note also that the item "Add pg_waldump option --save-fullpage to dump > full page images (David Christensen)" is tangentially related to > pg_get_wal_block_info(), since you can also get FPIs using > pg_get_wal_block_info() (in fact, that was originally its main > purpose). I'm not saying that you necessarily need to connect them > together in any way, but you might consider it. Well, there is so much _new_ in that tool that listing everything new seems confusing. FYI, I have just added an item about more aggressing freezing: <!-- Author: Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie> 2022-09-08 [d977ffd92] Instrument freezing in autovacuum log reports. Author: Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie> 2022-11-15 [9e5405993] Deduplicate freeze plans in freeze WAL records. Author: Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie> 2022-12-28 [1de58df4f] Add page-level freezing to VACUUM. --> <listitem> <para> During non-freeze operations, perform page freezing where appropriate Peter Geoghegan) </para> <para> This makes full-table freeze vacuums less necessary. </para> </listitem> All changes committed. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com Only you can decide what is important to you.
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