Re: Postgres limitation in user management - Mailing list pgsql-general

From Brent Wood
Subject Re: Postgres limitation in user management
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In response to Re: Postgres limitation in user management  ("Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-pgsql@hjp.at>)
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>> We have 2 sets of database user groups –
>>
>>  1. App – who owns the application schemas (and tables)
>>  2. Support – who provides db support
>>
>> We want Support users to have no SELECT or DML privilege but only ALTER TABLE
>> to perform any troubleshooting in the database.

>This seems strange to me. What kind of troubleshooting requires to
>ability to ALTER TABLE but not to do DML?

Where your db admin & data admin are separated. Data security issues can require minimal access to data, which a dba does not necessarily require. Especially when the DBA role is contracted out. 

Sort of along this line, we have offloaded user management to AD, so our DB user management is now carried out via in-house IT, who are not DBA's and have no access to data.

Brent Wood

Principal Technician, Fisheries
NIWA
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From: Peter J. Holzer
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2023 10:33
To: pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Postgres limitation in user management

On 2023-11-03 06:26:21 +0000, Kar, Swapnil (TR Technology) wrote:
> We have 2 sets of database user groups –
>
>  1. App – who owns the application schemas (and tables)
>  2. Support – who provides db support
>
> We want Support users to have no SELECT or DML privilege but only ALTER TABLE
> to perform any troubleshooting in the database.

This seems strange to me. What kind of troubleshooting requires to
ability to ALTER TABLE but not to do DML?


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