Re: Machine available for community use - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Greg Smith
Subject Re: Machine available for community use
Date
Msg-id Pine.GSO.4.64.0707252014090.13057@westnet.com
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In response to Re: Machine available for community use  (Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>)
Responses Re: Machine available for community use  (Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>)
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Gregory Stark wrote:

> Does gentoo these days have binary packages? source packages do implicitly
> require custom builds...

You can install with binaries now so it doesn't take forever to get 
started, but the minute you're adding/updating you're going to be 
building.  The main point I was trying to make is that if you don't do 
anything special to customize the standard Gentoo compilation setup, the 
amount of variation between Gentoo builds on different machines isn't 
significantly greater than that which exists between the various Linux 
distributions.  One could make a case that the big glibc differences 
between Debian Stable and everybody else right now provides a similar 
scale of variation in results that would impact reproducibility.

> for this situation I would actually agree that Redhat is a better fit in 
> that it's "canonical".

I threw out some criticism suggesting where RedHat is at a slight 
disadvantage for completeness sake, and so Gavin wasn't completely alone 
at expressing some distaste for the issues it introduces compared to 
Gentoo (potentially harder package installation and less flexiblity for 
running bleeding-edge kernels with RHEL).  His preference for Gentoo is 
completely defensible if you understand his priorities, and I'd hate to 
see a knee-jerk reaction against that distribution based just on how 
Gentoo can be abused and how it differs from other Linux variants.

But I run RHEL&Centos on several machines so I certainly wouldn't go so 
far as to argue against it being appropriate here.  The nice thing about 
RedHat and its clones is that even when you run into a situation where 
packages might be harder to install than you'd like them to be, the 
userbase is so big and skilled that the problems are usually visible (odds 
are good other people are running into the issue as well), reproducible on 
other builds, and you can get plenty of help resolving them.

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* Greg Smith gsmith@gregsmith.com http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD


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