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From Gavin M. Roy
Subject Re: Oracle buying Sleepycat, JBoss, and
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In response to Re: Oracle buying Sleepycat, JBoss, and  (Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>)
Responses Re: Oracle buying Sleepycat, JBoss, and  ("Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org>)
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That seems a bit unlikely.  PHP has been moving towards being DB
agnostic.  One of the discussed, though deferred plans for PHP 6 was
to move all non PDO db api's out of the core.

As far as AJAX+Oracle, I'm just wondering what kind of compelling
offering that would be that would coax PHP developers out of the
predominant open source db realm.  If it were to be anything of note,
it couldn't gain much audience if it were Oracle only.  Note that one
of the big initiatives going on at Zend right now is a Zend framework
that has tapped most of the noted php based framework authors out there.

I would guess the play is more in line to derail the Zend
relationship with IBM and the Zend+IBM  DB2 specific offerings.

The Sleepycat purchase seems to be more of the no-brainer boxing
MySQL into a corner.

Zend has commercial offerings, though I think they've struggled to
gain traction since they keep changing up the product offerings.
Last I heard Yahoo! has more of the PHP brain trust than Zend does,
if that helps clarify the impact to PHP any.

Gavin

On Feb 10, 2006, at 7:22 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Josh Berkus wrote:
>> Bruce,
>>
>>> Could Oracle modify PHP and JBoss so they work poorly with open
>>> source
>>> databases?
>>
>> Sure.  However, their communities can also fork them.  That's
>> unlikely with
>> JBoss which is corporate, but PHP is pretty close to forking
>> already.   If
>> Zend+Oracle tries to lock out MySQL from PHP, you'll see a fork
>> real fast.
>
> OK, more realistic question.  What if Oracle creates something like
> AJAX, which works with PHP/JBoss, and Oracle, but not with other
> databases because those other databases don't have the hooks?  They
> are
> not removing functionality, but adding Oracle-specific stuff.
>
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