Re: C locale versus en_US.UTF8. (Was: String comparision in PostgreSQL) - Mailing list pgsql-general

From Scott Marlowe
Subject Re: C locale versus en_US.UTF8. (Was: String comparision in PostgreSQL)
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In response to Re: C locale versus en_US.UTF8. (Was: String comparision in PostgreSQL)  (Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>)
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On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:52:50PM -0600, Scott Marlowe wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:31:21AM -0700, Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > citext unfortunately doesn't allow for index optimization of LIKE
>> >> > queries, which IMNSHO defeats the whole purpose.  to the best way
>> >> > remains to use lower() ...
>> >> > this will be index optimized and fast as long as you specified C
>> >> > locale for your database.
>> >>
>> >> What is the difference between C and en_US.UTF8, please?  We see that
>> >> the same query (that invokes a sort) runs 15% faster under the C
>> >> locale.  The output between C and en_US.UTF8 is identical.  We're
>> >> considering moving our database from en_US.UTF8 to C, but we do deal
>> >> with internationalized text.
>> >
>> > Well, C has reduced overhead for string comparisons, but obviously
>> > doesn't work well for international characters.  The single-byte
>> > encodings have somewhat less overhead than UTF8.  You can try using C
>> > locales for databases that don't require non-ASCII characters.
>>
>> I think you're confusing encodings with locales.  C is a locale. You
>
> I think technically C is a non-locale.

True.  But it's NOT an encoding.

>> can have a database with a locale of C and UTF-8 encoding.
>>
>> create database clocale_utf8 encoding='UTF8' LC_COLLATE= 'C' template=template0;
>>
>> \l
>>      Name     |  Owner   | Encoding  |   Collate   |    Ctype    |
>> Access privileges
>> --------------+----------+-----------+-------------+-------------+-----------------------
>>  clocale_utf8 | smarlowe | UTF8      | C           | en_US.UTF-8 |
>>
>>
>> SQL_ASCII is the encoding equivalent of C locale, but it also allows
>> multi-byte characters.
>
> Yes, but what sort ordering do you get in that case?

Byte ordering.


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