The subject of the discussion/track is to whether or not there should be a code of condect (Coc).
Whether or not there should be a charge for PostgreSQL does not belong in this track, and is, in fact, a moot point as PostgreSQL IS a _free_ database, as is this community board.
If you feel it is necessary to discuss fees, then kindly respect Josua Drake's intent of a CoC and open a separate discussion.
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 10:03 AM, James Keener <jim@jimkeener.com> wrote:
> My only aim is further progress of postgresql. Charging for it would do exactly that. Most people would simply switch to MySQL (or Maria) or stop upgrading/upgrade to a fork.
> As per Sun Microsystem’s case charging zero dollars (for Java and mysql) > means there is zero income. Why do you think this is a company? There _are_ companies that offer support and coding. While I'm sure everyone would agree that developers should be able to eat (and more/better than Raman), the point of the "The PostgreSQL Global Development Group" and being "The world's most advanced open source database" is not to become Ellison. The commercial support and consulting offerings are there to make the money. The rest of us plebs just have to help each other out.
Had PostgreSQL started out/never became open source, we would be having a very different discussion (about a very different product, if it still existed). As it stands, fundamentally shifting the goals, objectives, MO of a libre and beer free software project to something other than that is going to be met with a lot of resistance because it shifts how we as users interact with something we've interacted with in a certain way and with certain expectations for years.
> Emails are not the best medium for consulting about complex issues. Emails are actually a decent medium because they allow one to express themselves in a well thought out and clear way. It just has to be used correctly (and I'm not insinuating I'm great at that).
I'm not sure who Farjad is; is this a serious proposal or "just something someone said"? I feel religious about PostgreSQL as it really has changed how I view databases in general (and you know what they say about converts). Not that I matter, but I would feel a huge blow if I could no longer tell people to use it.