Re: Proposal: "Causal reads" mode for load balancing reads without stale data - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Simon Riggs
Subject Re: Proposal: "Causal reads" mode for load balancing reads without stale data
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In response to Re: Proposal: "Causal reads" mode for load balancing reads without stale data  (Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>)
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On 16 November 2015 at 11:01, Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
On 16 November 2015 at 18:44, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:

The pooler knows which statements are reads and writes

I think that's an iffy assumption.

It's not an assumption, its a requirement. If it can't do this in some manner then you can't use a load balancing pooler.

Randomly submitting things works as well, since it leads to a write error when you try to write data on a read only server, so you do then learn whether it is a read or a write. Once you know its a write, you submit to master. But you still need to be careful of other effects, so that isn't recommended.

It's one we tend to make because otherwise read/write pooling won't work, but in PostgreSQL there's really no way to know when calling a function.

What does

    SELECT get_user_stats()

do? The pooler has _no_ _idea_ unless manually configured with knowledge about particular user defined functions.

In the absence of such knowledge it can:

- send the work to a replica and report the ERROR to the user if it fails due to an attempted write;
- send the work to a replica, capture an ERROR due to attempted write, and retry on the master;
- send everything it's not sure about to the master

If a pooler had insight into the catalogs and if we had readonly / readwrite attributes on functions, it could be smarter.

pgpool supports white/black function listing for exactly this reason.

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