Re: Inaccurate results from numeric ln(), log(), exp() and pow() - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Simon Riggs
Subject Re: Inaccurate results from numeric ln(), log(), exp() and pow()
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In response to Re: Inaccurate results from numeric ln(), log(), exp() and pow()  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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On 16 September 2015 at 09:32, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Dean Rasheed <dean.a.rasheed@gmail.com> writes:
> ... For example, exp() works for inputs up to 6000. However, if you
> compute exp(5999.999) the answer is truly huge -- probably only of
> academic interest to anyone. With HEAD, exp(5999.999) produces a
> number with 2609 significant digits in just 1.5ms (on my ageing
> desktop box). However, only the first 9 digits returned are correct.
> The other 2600 digits are pure noise. With my patch, all 2609 digits
> are correct (confirmed using bc), but it takes 27ms to compute, making
> it 18x slower.

> AFAICT, this kind of slowdown only happens in cases like this where a
> very large number of digits are being returned. It's not obvious what
> we should be doing in cases like this. Is a performance reduction like
> that acceptable to generate the correct answer? Or should we try to
> produce a more approximate result more quickly, and where do we draw
> the line?

FWIW, in that particular example I'd happily take the 27ms time to get
the more accurate answer.  If it were 270ms, maybe not.  I think my
initial reaction to this patch is "are there any cases where it makes
things 100x slower ... especially for non-outrageous inputs?"  If not,
sure, let's go for more accuracy.

Agreed

Hopefully things can be made faster with less significant digits.

I figure this is important enough to trigger a maint release, but since we already agreed when the next one is, I don't see we need to do it any quicker, do we?

Well done Dean for excellent research.

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