Re: PostgreSQL's handling of fsync() errors is unsafe and risks data loss at least on XFS - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Craig Ringer
Subject Re: PostgreSQL's handling of fsync() errors is unsafe and risks data loss at least on XFS
Date
Msg-id CAMsr+YHczzQJPGr94Y_Zw34Yzuw8UkzmxEB9eWuFaALRSxY-pA@mail.gmail.com
Whole thread Raw
In response to PostgreSQL's handling of fsync() errors is unsafe and risks data loss at least on XFS  (Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>)
Responses Re: PostgreSQL's handling of fsync() errors is unsafe and risks data loss at least on XFS
Re: PostgreSQL's handling of fsync() errors is unsafe and risks data loss at least on XFS
List pgsql-hackers


On 31 March 2018 at 21:24, Anthony Iliopoulos <ailiop@altatus.com> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 10:18:14AM +1300, Thomas Munro wrote:

> >> Yeah, I see why you want to PANIC.
> >
> > Indeed. Even doing that leaves question marks about all the kernel
> > versions before v4.13, which at this point is pretty much everything
> > out there, not even detecting this reliably. This is messy.

There may still be a way to reliably detect this on older kernel
versions from userspace, but it will be messy whatsoever. On EIO
errors, the kernel will not restore the dirty page flags, but it
will flip the error flags on the failed pages. One could mmap()
the file in question, obtain the PFNs (via /proc/pid/pagemap)
and enumerate those to match the ones with the error flag switched
on (via /proc/kpageflags). This could serve at least as a detection
mechanism, but one could also further use this info to logically
map the pages that failed IO back to the original file offsets,
and potentially retry IO just for those file ranges that cover
the failed pages. Just an idea, not tested.

That sounds like a huge amount of complexity, with uncertainty as to how it'll behave kernel-to-kernel, for negligble benefit.

I was exploring the idea of doing selective recovery of one relfilenode, based on the assumption that we know the filenode related to the fd that failed to fsync(). We could redo only WAL on that relation. But it fails the same test: it's too complex for a niche case that shouldn't happen in the first place, so it'll probably have bugs, or grow bugs in bitrot over time.

Remember, if you're on ext4 with errors=remount-ro, you get shut down even harder than a PANIC. So we should just use the big hammer here.

I'll send a patch this week.

--
 Craig Ringer                   http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
 PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services

pgsql-hackers by date:

Previous
From: Tomas Vondra
Date:
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Shared Ispell dictionaries
Next
From: Tom Lane
Date:
Subject: Re: PostgreSQL's handling of fsync() errors is unsafe and risks data loss at least on XFS