Re: Handy describe_pg_lock function - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Craig Ringer
Subject Re: Handy describe_pg_lock function
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Msg-id CAMsr+YExp1xpqnKvyVWDbnzVAOJN0DzwkZLT4UtTfW-wOA-hFQ@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: Handy describe_pg_lock function  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Responses Re: Handy describe_pg_lock function  (David Fetter <david@fetter.org>)
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 at 13:42, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> writes:
> On 2019-11-08 14:49:25 +0800, Craig Ringer wrote:
>> I recently found the need to pretty-print the contents of pg_locks. So
>> here's a little helper to do it, for anyone else who happens to have that
>> need. pg_identify_object is far from adequate for the purpose. Reckon I
>> should turn it into C and submit?

> Yea, I think we need to make it easier for users to understand
> locking. I kind of wonder whether part of the answer would be to change
> the details that pg_locks shows, or add a pg_locks_detailed or such
> (presumably a more detailed version would include walking the dependency
> graph to at least some degree, and thus more expensive).

I think the actual reason why pg_locks is so bare-bones is that it's
not supposed to require taking any locks of its own internally.  If,
for example, we changed the database column so that it requires a lookup
in pg_database, then the view would stop working if someone had an
exclusive lock on pg_database --- pretty much exactly the kind of case
you might wish to be investigating with that view.

I don't have any objection to adding a more user-friendly layer
to use for normal cases, but I'm hesitant to add any gotchas like
that into the basic view.


Yeah.

You can always query pg_catalog.pg_lock_status() directly,  but that's not really documented. I'd be fine with adding a secondary view.

That reminds me, I've been meaning to submit a decent "find blocking lock relationships" view for some time too. It's absurd that people still have to crib half-broken code from the wiki (https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Lock_Monitoring) to get a vaguely comprehensible summary of what's waiting for what. We now have pg_blocking_pids(), which is fantastic, but it's not AFAIK rolled into any user-friendly view to help users out so they have to roll their own.

Anyone inclined to object to the addition of an official "pg_lock_details" view with info like in my example function, and a "pg_lock_waiters" or "pg_locks_blocked" view with info on blocking/blocked-by relationships? I'd be inclined to add a C level function to help describe the lock subject of a pg_locks row, then use that in system_views.sql for the "pg_lock_details" view. Then build a "pg_lock_waiters" view on top of it using pg_blocking_pids(). Reasonable?

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