Re: Performance of query - Mailing list pgsql-performance

From Jeff Janes
Subject Re: Performance of query
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In response to Re: Performance of query  (Misa Simic <misa.simic@gmail.com>)
Responses Re: Performance of query  (Cindy Makarowsky <cindymakarowsky@gmail.com>)
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On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Misa Simic <misa.simic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jeff,

It seems my previous mail has not showed up in the list... copied/pasted again belloew

However, you said something important:

"The join to the "state" table is not necessary.  Between the foreign key and the primary key, you know that every state exists, and that every state exists only once.  But, that will not solve your problem, as the join to the state table is not where the time goes."

I think it is something what planner could/should be "aware off"... and discard the join 

I thought that this was on the To Do list (http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo) but if it is, I can't find it.

I think the main concern was that it might add substantial planning time to all queries, even ones that would not benefit from it.  I don't know if there is a way to address this concern, other then to implement it and see what happens.

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EXPLAIN ANALYZE
SELECT busbase.state AS c0, count(busbase.id) AS m0 FROM busbase INNER JOIN state USING (state)
GROUP BY busbase.state

In the original email, the table definition listed "id" twice, once with a not null constraint.  If it is truly not null, then this count could be replaced with count(1), in which case the original index on (state) would be sufficient, the composite on (count, id) would not be necessary.  (Yes, this is another thing the planner could, in theory, recognize on your behalf)

Based on the use of column aliases which are less meaningful than the original column names were, I'm assuming that this is generated SQL that you have no control over?


on created composite index 
CREATE INDEX comp_statidx2
  ON busbase
  USING btree
  (state, id );


 


we got:

"GroupAggregate  (cost=0.00..2610570.81 rows=51 width=3) (actual time=98.923..51033.888 rows=51 loops=1)"
"  ->  Merge Join  (cost=0.00..2310285.02 rows=60057056 width=3) (actual time=38.424..41992.070 rows=60057057 loops=1)"
"        Merge Cond: (state.state = busbase.state)"
"        ->  Index Only Scan using state_pkey on state  (cost=0.00..13.02 rows=51 width=3) (actual time=0.008..0.148 rows=51 loops=1)"
"              Heap Fetches: 51"
"        ->  Index Only Scan using comp_statidx2 on busbase  (cost=0.00..1559558.68 rows=60057056 width=3) (actual time=38.408..12883.575 rows=60057057 loops=1)"
"              Heap Fetches: 0"
"Total runtime: 51045.648 ms"


I don't understand why you are getting a merge join rather than a hash join.  Nor why there is such a big difference between the actual time of the index only scan and of the merge join itself.  I would think the two should be about equal.  Perhaps I just don't understand the semantics of reported actual time for merge joins.

During normal operations, how much of busbase is going to be all_visible at any given time?  If that table sees high turnover, this plan might not work well on the production system.
 

Cheers,

Jeff

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