Re: A better way than tweaking NTUP_PER_BUCKET - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Jeff Janes
Subject Re: A better way than tweaking NTUP_PER_BUCKET
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In response to Re: A better way than tweaking NTUP_PER_BUCKET  (Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>)
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On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
On 23 June 2013 03:16, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:

> Will think on it more.

Some other thoughts related to this...

* Why are we building a special kind of hash table? Why don't we just
use the hash table code that we in every other place in the backend.
If that code is so bad why do we use it everywhere else? That is
extensible, so we could try just using that. (Has anyone actually
tried?)

Do you mean dynahash.c?

Dynahash has no provision to spill to disk gracefully, which seems like a huge limit for this purpose, but not one for the purposes it currently serves.  Also, dynahash is built around use of C structs, not tuples, as the things being stored.  Perhaps that is not the mis-match I think it is?
 

* We're not thinking about cache locality and set correspondence
either. If the join is expected to hardly ever match, then we should
be using a bitmap as a bloom filter rather than assuming that a very
large hash table is easily accessible.

* The skew hash table will be hit frequently and would show good L2
cache usage. I think I'll try adding the skew table always to see if
that improves the speed of the hash join.

Is there a good description of what the skew table is; and of the hash join code in general?  Last time I dug into nodeHash.c, I realized it really needs a README file (unless there is already one I missed), or at least some high level comments.  Most of the comments in there seem to just restate what the code itself already says, without explaining why it is being done or how it fits into the big picture.
 
Cheers,

Jeff

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