Re: Perf decreased although server is better - Mailing list pgsql-performance
| From | Rick Otten |
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| Subject | Re: Perf decreased although server is better |
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| Msg-id | CAMAYy4Lmen=QMwoNsNng4UPKXY7J6qHZZDwn0oJ29M_xci=DXw@mail.gmail.com Whole thread Raw |
| In response to | Re: Perf decreased although server is better (Benjamin Toueg <btoueg@gmail.com>) |
| List | pgsql-performance |
> Rick, what did you mean by kernel configuration? The OS is a standard Ubuntu 16.04:
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> - Linux 4.4.0-45-generic #66-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 19 14:12:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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> Do you think losing half the number of cores can explain my performance issue ? (AMD 8 cores down to Haswell 4 cores).
I was referring to some of the tunables discussed on this page:
Specifically, in my environment I update /etc/security/limits.conf to include:
* hard nofile 65536* soft nofile 65536* hard stack 16384* soft stack 16384* hard memlock unlimited* soft memlock unlimited
And then add this to /etc/pam.d/common-session so that they get picked up when I su to the postgres user:
session required pam_limits.so
I update sysctl.conf with huge pages:
vm.hugetlb_shm_group=5432vm.nr_hugepages=4300
(The number of huge pages may be different for your environment.)
And create and add the postgres user to the huge pages group:
hugepages:x:5432:postgres
You may also want to look at some TCP tunables, and check your shared memory limits too.
I only mentioned this because sometimes when you move from one system to another, you can get so caught up in getting the database set up and data migration that you overlook the basic system settings...
Regarding the number of cores, most of the postgresql queries are going to be single threaded. The number of cores won't impact the performance of a single query except in certain circumstances:
1) You have parallel queries enabled and the table is doing some sort of expensive sequence scan
2) You have so many concurrent queries running the whole system is cpu starved.
3) There is some other resource contention between the cpus that causes _more_ cpus to actually run slower than fewer. (It happens - I had a server back in the 90's which had severe lock contention over /dev/tcp. Adding more cpus made it slower.)
4) The near-cache memory gets fragmented in a way that processors have to reach deeper in the caches to find what they need. (I'm not explaining that very well, but it is unlikely to be a problem in your case anyway.)
A quick and simple command to get a sense of how busy your cpus are is:
$ mpstat -P ALL 5
(let it run for a few of the 5 second intervals)
If they are all running pretty hot, then more cores might help. If just one is running hot, then more cores probably won't do anything.
On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Benjamin Toueg <btoueg@gmail.com> wrote:
I've noticed a network latency increase. Ping between web server and database : 0.6 ms avg before, 5.3 ms avg after -- it wasn't that big 4 days ago :(I've narrowed my investigation to one particular "Transaction" in terms of the NewRelic APM. It's basically the main HTTP request of my application.Looks like the ping impacts psycopg2:connect (see http://imgur.com/a/LDH1c): 4 ms up to 16 ms on average.That I can understand. However, I don't understand the performance decrease of the select queries on table1 (see https://i.stack.imgur.com/QaUqy.png): 80 ms up to 160 ms on average Same goes for table 2 (see http://imgur.com/a/CnETs): 4 ms up to 20 ms on averageHowever, there is a commit in my request, and it performs better (see http://imgur.com/a/td8Dc): 12 ms down to 6 ms on average.I don't see how this can be due to network latency!I will provide a new bonnie++ benchmark when the requests per minute is at the lowest (remember I can only run benchmarks while the server is in use).Rick, what did you mean by kernel configuration? The OS is a standard Ubuntu 16.04:- Linux 4.4.0-45-generic #66-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 19 14:12:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/LinuxDo you think losing half the number of cores can explain my performance issue ? (AMD 8 cores down to Haswell 4 cores).Best Regards,BenjaminPS : I've edited the SO post http://serverfault.com/questions/812702/posgres-perf- decreased-although-server-is- better 2016-11-04 1:05 GMT+01:00 Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@gmail.com>:On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Benjamin Toueg <btoueg@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Stream gives substantially better results with the new server (before/after)
Yep, the new server can access RAM at about twice the speed of the old.
> I've run "bonnie++ -u postgres -d /tmp/ -s 4096M -r 1096" on both
> machines. I don't know how to read bonnie++ results (before/after)
> but it looks quite the same, sometimes better for the new,
> sometimes better for the old.
On most metrics the new machine looks better, but there are a few
things that look potentially problematic with the new machine: the
new machine uses about 1.57x the CPU time of the old per block
written sequentially ((41 / 143557) / (16 / 87991)); so if the box
becomes CPU starved, you might notice writes getting slower than on
the new box. Also, several of the latency numbers are worse -- in
some cases far worse. If I'm understanding that properly, it
suggests that while total throughput from a number of connections
may be better on the new machine, a single connection may not run
the same query as quickly. That probably makes the new machine
better for handling an OLTP workload from many concurrent clients,
but perhaps not as good at cranking out a single big report or
running dump/restore.
Yes, it is quite possible that the new machine could be faster at
some things and slower at others.
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