Re: [PATCH] SQL function to report log message - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From dinesh kumar
Subject Re: [PATCH] SQL function to report log message
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Msg-id CALnrH7qM1BMeLxDF5G1g-22baBNZunCkAsn41XWBxN5zJ0XQ4Q@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: [PATCH] SQL function to report log message  (Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>)
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On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:11 AM, Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:54 PM, dinesh kumar <dineshkumar02@gmail.com> wrote:
> Would like to discuss on below feature here.
>
> Feature:
>     Having an SQL function, to write messages to log destination.
>
> Justification:
>     As of now, we don't have an SQL function to write custom/application
> messages to log destination. We have "RAISE" clause which is controlled by
> log_ parameters. If we have an SQL function which works irrespective of log
> settings, that would be a good for many log parsers. What i mean is, in DBA
> point of view, if we route all our native OS stats to log files in a proper
> format, then we can have our log reporting tools to give most effective
> reports. Also, Applications can log their own messages to postgres log
> files, which can be monitored by DBAs too.

What's the actual use case for this feature other than it would be
good to have it?

That's a good question Michael.

When i was working as a DBA for a different RDBMS, developers used to write some serious APP errors, Followed by instructions into some sort of log and trace files.
Since, DBAs didn't have the permission to check app logs, which was owned by Ops team.

In my old case, application was having serious OOM issues, which was crashing frequently after the deployment. It wasn't the consistent behavior from the app side, hence they used to sent  a copy all APP metrics to trace files, and we were monitoring the DB what was happening during the spike on app servers.

I didn't mean that, we need to have this feature, since we have it on other RDBMS. I don't see a reason, why don't we have this in our PG too.

I see the similar item in our development list.

Let me know if i miss anything here.

Best Regards,
Dinesh

A log message is here to give information about the
state of something that happens in backend, but in the case of this
function the event that happens is the content of the function itself.
It also adds a new log level for something that has a unique usage,
which looks like an overkill to me. Btw, you could do something more
advanced with simply an extension if you really want to play with this
area... But I am dubious about what kind of applications would use
that.
--
Michael

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