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From Binguo Bao
Subject Re: [proposal] de-TOAST'ing using a iterator
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In response to Re: [proposal] de-TOAST'ing using a iterator  (John Naylor <john.naylor@2ndquadrant.com>)
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Hi, John

First, I'd like to advocate for caution when using synthetic
benchmarks involving compression. Consider this test:
insert into detoast_c (a)
select
    'abc'||
    repeat(
    (SELECT string_agg(md5(chr(i)), '')
    FROM generate_series(1,127) i)
    , 10000)
    ||'xyz'
from generate_series(1,100);
The results for the uncompressed case were not much different then
your test. However, in the compressed case the iterator doesn't buy us
much with beginning searches since full decompression is already fast:
                 master          patch
comp. beg.        869ms          837ms
comp. end       14100ms        16100ms
uncomp. beg.     6360ms          800ms
uncomp. end     21100ms        21400ms
and with compression it's 14% slower searching to the end. This is
pretty contrived, but I include it for demonstration.

I've reproduced the test case with test scripts in the attachment on my laptop:

                                 master              patch
comp. beg.        2686.77 ms          1532.79 ms
comp. end         17971.8 ms          21206.3 ms
uncomp. beg.    8358.79 ms          1556.93 ms
uncomp. end     23559.7 ms          22547.1 ms

In the compressed beginning case, the test result is different from yours since the patch is ~1.75x faster
rather than no improvement. The interesting thing is that the patch if 4% faster than master in the uncompressed end case.
I can't figure out reason now.

Reading the thread where you're working on optimizing partial
decompression [1], it seems you have two separate solutions for the
two problems. Maybe this is fine, but I'd like to bring up the
possibility of using the same approach for both kinds of callers.
 
I'm not an expert on TOAST, but maybe one way to solve both problems
is to work at the level of whole TOAST chunks. In that case, the
current patch would look like this:
1. The caller requests more of the attribute value from the de-TOAST iterator.
2. The iterator gets the next chunk and either copies or decompresses
the whole chunk into the buffer. (If inline, just decompress the whole
thing) 

Thanks for your suggestion. It is indeed possible to implement PG_DETOAST_DATUM_SLICE using the de-TOAST iterator.
IMO the iterator is more suitable for situations where the caller doesn't know the slice size. If the caller knows the slice size,
it is reasonable to fetch enough chunks at once and then decompress it at once.
 -- 
Best regards,
Binguo Bao
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