Re: data_checksums enabled by default (was: Move --data-checksums to common options in initdb --help) - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Peter Geoghegan
Subject Re: data_checksums enabled by default (was: Move --data-checksums to common options in initdb --help)
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Msg-id CAH2-Wzn1m1Hgun_qF9JfVnkQnXUMuPW=Kumci9H9mUvPJOxQBg@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: data_checksums enabled by default (was: Move --data-checksums to common options in initdb --help)  (Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>)
Responses Re: data_checksums enabled by default (was: Move --data-checksums to common options in initdb --help)  (Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>)
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On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 12:03 PM Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
> Do you really believe it to be wrong?  Do we stop performing the correct
> write calls in the correct order to the kernel with fsync being off?  If
> the kernel actually handles all of our write calls correctly and we
> cleanly shut down and the kernel cleanly shuts down and sync's the disks
> before a reboot, will there be corruption from running with fsync off?

This is a total straw man. Everyone understands the technical issues
with fsync perfectly well, and everyone understands that everyone
understands the issue, so spare me the "I'm just a humble country
lawyer" style explanation.

What you seem to be arguing is that the differences between disabling
checksums and disabling fsync is basically quantitative, and so making
a qualitative distinction between those two things is meaningless, and
that it logically follows that disagreeing with you is essentially
irresponsible. This is a tactic that would be an embarrassment to a
high school debate team. It's below you.

Your argument may be logically consistent, but it's still nonsense.

-- 
Peter Geoghegan



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