Re: Dependency between bgw_notify_pid and bgw_flags - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 3:33 AM, Ashutosh Bapat
<ashutosh.bapat@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
> This idea looks good.

Thanks.  It needs testing though to see if it really works as
intended.  Can you look into that?

> Looking at larger picture, we should also enable this feature to be used by
> auxilliary processes. It's very hard to add a new auxilliary process in
> current code. One has to go add code at many places to make sure that the
> auxilliary processes die and are re-started correctly. Even tougher to add a
> parent auxilliary process, which spawns multiple worker processes.That would
> be whole lot simpler if we could allow the auxilliary processes to use
> background worker infrastructure (which is what they are utlimately).

That's a separate patch, but, sure, we could do that.  I agree with
Alvaro's comments: the postmaster should start all children.  Other
processes should just request that it do so.  We have two mechanisms
for that right now: the one used by bgworkers, and the one used by the
AV launcher.

> BGWORKER_SHMEM_ACCESS has similar usage, except that it resets the on exit
> callbacks and detaches the shared memory segment from the background worker.
> That avoids a full cluster restart when one of those worker which can not
> corrupt shared memory dies. But I do not see any check to prevent such
> backend from calling PGSharedMemoryReattach()

There isn't, but you shouldn't do that.  :-)

This is C code; you can't protect against actively malicious code.

> So it looks like, it suffices to assume that background worker either needs
> to access shared memory or doesn't. Any background worker having shared
> memory access can also access database and thus becomes part of the backend
> list. Or may be we just avoid these flags and treat every background worker
> as if it passed both these flags. That will simplify a lot of code.

I think it's useful to support workers that don't have shared memory
access at all, because those can crash without causing a system-wide
reset.  But I don't see the point in distinguishing between workers
with shared-memory access and those with a database connection.  I
mean, obviously the worker needs to be able to initialize itself
either way, but there seems to be no reason to force that to be
signalled in bgw_flags.  It can just depend on whether
BackgroundWorkerInitializeConnection gets called.