Re: Variadic aggregates vs. project policy - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Pavel Stehule
Subject Re: Variadic aggregates vs. project policy
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In response to Variadic aggregates vs. project policy  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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2013/8/29 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
So I was hacking away at supporting variadic aggregates (per an internal
request at Salesforce), and had it pretty much working, when I came across
this old comment in opr_sanity.sql:

-- Check that there are not aggregates with the same name and different
-- numbers of arguments.  While not technically wrong, we have a project policy
-- to avoid this because it opens the door for confusion in connection with
-- ORDER BY: novices frequently put the ORDER BY in the wrong place.
-- See the fate of the single-argument form of string_agg() for history.
-- The only aggregates that should show up here are count(x) and count(*).

While a variadic-using aggregate doesn't actually trip the associated test
query, it surely violates the spirit of this policy: if you put ORDER BY
in the wrong place the parser will be unable to detect that that wasn't
what you meant.

For context see the thread starting here:
http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/AANLkTikV5ok2tS8t6V+gsAPtE3N6TJq1JpPhMZhG2XL0@mail.gmail.com
In that thread we agreed that this "policy" might be rather squishy,
but we should at least think hard about whether it would be wise to create
built-in aggregates with the same name and different numbers of arguments.

So the question I'm now wondering about is whether this consideration
makes variadic aggregates a bad idea all around, even if we don't have
any built-in ones.  Is the risk of user confusion (in the use of their
own aggregate) sufficient reason to reject such a feature?

can be this issue solved by syntax?

In September commitfest is  patch for "WITHIN GROUP" where ORDER BY clause is safety separated from parameters.

Regards

Pavel
 
                        regards, tom lane


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