Re: [Proposal] Global temporary tables - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

so 2. 11. 2019 v 8:18 odesílatel Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com> napsal:

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 6:31 AM Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> wrote:
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> pá 1. 11. 2019 v 17:09 odesílatel Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru> napsal:
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>> On 01.11.2019 18:26, Robert Haas wrote:
>> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:15 AM Konstantin Knizhnik
>> > <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru> wrote:
>> >> It seems to me that I have found quite elegant solution for per-backend statistic for GTT: I just inserting it in backend's catalog cache, but not in pg_statistic table itself.
>> >> To do it I have to add InsertSysCache/InsertCatCache functions which insert pinned entry in the correspondent cache.
>> >> I wonder if there are some pitfalls of such approach?
>> > That sounds pretty hackish. You'd have to be very careful, for
>> > example, that if the tables were dropped or re-analyzed, all of the
>> > old entries got removed --
>>
>> I have checked it:
>> - when table is reanalyzed, then cache entries are replaced.
>> - when table is dropped, then cache entries are removed.
>>
>> > and then it would still fail if any code
>> > tried to access the statistics directly from the table, rather than
>> > via the caches. My assumption is that the statistics ought to be
>> > stored in some backend-private data structure designed for that
>> > purpose, and that the code that needs the data should be taught to
>> > look for it there when the table is a GTT.
>>
>> Yes, if you do "select * from pg_statistic" then you will not see
>> statistic for GTT in this case.
>> But I do not think that it is so critical. I do not believe that anybody
>> is trying to manually interpret values in this table.
>> And optimizer is retrieving statistic through sys-cache mechanism and so
>> is able to build correct plan in this case.
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>
> Years ago, when I though about it, I wrote patch with similar design. It's working, but surely it's ugly.
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> I have another idea. Can be pg_statistics view instead a table?
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> Some like
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> SELECT * FROM pg_catalog.pg_statistics_rel
> UNION ALL
> SELECT * FROM pg_catalog.pg_statistics_gtt();
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> Internally - when stat cache is filled, then there can be used pg_statistics_rel and pg_statistics_gtt() directly. What I remember, there was not possibility to work with queries, only with just relations.

It'd be a loss if you lose the ability to see the statistics, as there
are valid use cases where you need to see the stats, eg. understanding
why you don't get the plan you wanted.  There's also at least one
extension [1] that allows you to backup and use restored statistics,
so there are definitely people interested in it.

[1]: https://github.com/ossc-db/pg_dbms_stats

I don't think - the extensions can use UNION and the content will be same as caches used by planner.