Re: Request: pg_cancel_backend variant that handles 'idle in transaction' sessions - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Pavel Stehule
Subject Re: Request: pg_cancel_backend variant that handles 'idle in transaction' sessions
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Msg-id CAFj8pRBWpGuq5d5jhc2JjT_80WLntZck7vVWNyN7dLxbt3=WPw@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: Request: pg_cancel_backend variant that handles 'idle in transaction' sessions  (Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>)
Responses Re: Request: pg_cancel_backend variant that handles 'idle in transaction' sessions  (Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>)
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2015-11-04 15:50 GMT+01:00 Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>:
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Okay, I think one more point to consider is that it would be preferable
>> > to
>> > have such an option for backend sessions and not for other processes
>> > like WalSender.
>>
>> All right...I see the usage..  I withdraw my objection to 'session'
>> prefix then now that I understand the case.  So, do you agree that:
>>
>> *) session_idle_timeout: dumps the backend after X time in 'idle' state
>> and
>>  *) transaction_timeout: cancels transaction after X time, regardless of
>> state
>>
>> sounds good?
>
>
> Not too much
>
>  *) transaction_timeout: cancels transaction after X time, regardless of
> state
>
> This is next level of statement_timeout. I can't to image sense. What is a
> issue solved by this property?

That's the entire point of the thread (or so I thought): cancel
transactions 'idle in transaction'.  This is entirely different than
killing idle sessions.  BTW, I would never configure
session_idle_timeout, because I have no idea what that would do to
benign cases where connection poolers have grabbed a few extra
connections during a load spike.   It's pretty common not to have
those applications have coded connection retry properly and it would
cause issues.

you wrote "transaction_timeout: cancels transaction after X time, regardless of
> state" - I understand if text is "cancels transaction after X time if state is "idle in tramsaction"

Pavel
 

The problem at hand is idle *transactions*, not sessions, and a
configuration setting that deals with transaction time.  I do not
understand the objection to setting an upper bound on transaction
time.   I'm ok with cancelling or dumping the session with a slight
preference on cancel.

merlin

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