Re: UNDO and in-place update - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Pavel Stehule
Subject Re: UNDO and in-place update
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In response to Re: UNDO and in-place update  (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>)
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2016-11-25 1:44 GMT+01:00 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>:
On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think that the whole emphasis on whether and to what degree this is
>> like Oracle is somewhat misplaced.  I would look at it a different
>> way.  We've talked many times over the years about how PostgreSQL is
>> optimized for aborts.  Everybody that I've heard comment on that issue
>> thinks that is a bad thing.
>
>
> again this depends on usage - when you have a possibility to run VACUUM,
> then this strategy is better.
>
> The fast aborts is one pretty good feature for stable usage.
>
> Isn't possible to use UNDO log (or something similar) for VACUUM? ROLLBACK
> should be fast, but
> VACUUM can do more work?

I think that in this design we wouldn't use VACUUM at all.  However,
if what you are saying is that we should try to make aborts
near-instantaneous by pushing UNDO actions into the background, I
agree entirely.  InnoDB already does that, IIUC.

ok, it can be another process - that can be more aggressive and less limited than vacuum.

Regards

Pavel
 

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Robert Haas
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