Re: [PoC] Improve dead tuple storage for lazy vacuum - Mailing list pgsql-hackers
From | John Naylor |
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Subject | Re: [PoC] Improve dead tuple storage for lazy vacuum |
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Msg-id | CAFBsxsEunCjqXo6Q1rjw6fqmduh5DncTDaDw0NhLr2fYBQTj3w@mail.gmail.com Whole thread Raw |
In response to | Re: [PoC] Improve dead tuple storage for lazy vacuum (Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>) |
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Re: [PoC] Improve dead tuple storage for lazy vacuum
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On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 9:11 AM Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> True. I'm going to start with 6 bytes and will consider reducing it to
> 5 bytes.
Okay, let's plan on 6 for now, so we have the worst-case sizes up front. As discussed, I will attempt the size class decoupling after v8 and see how it goes.
> Encoding the kind in a pointer tag could be tricky given DSA
If it turns out to be unworkable, that's life. If it's just tricky, that can certainly be put off for future work. I hope to at least test it out with local memory.
> support so currently I'm thinking to pack the node kind and node
> capacity classes to uint8.
That won't work, if we need 128 for capacity, leaving no bits left. I want the capacity to be a number we can directly compare with the count (we won't ever need to store 256 because that node will never grow). Also, further to my last message, we need to access the kind quickly, without more cycles.
> I've made some progress on investigating DSA support. I've written
> draft patch for that and regression tests passed. I'll share it as a
> separate patch for discussion with v8 radix tree patch.
Great!
> While implementing DSA support, I realized that we may not need to use
> pointer tagging to distinguish between backend-local address or
> dsa_pointer. In order to get a backend-local address from dsa_pointer,
> we need to pass dsa_area like:
I was not clear -- when I see how much code changes to accommodate DSA pointers, I imagine I will pretty much know the places that would be affected by tagging the pointer with the node kind.
Speaking of tests, there is currently no Meson support, but tests pass because this library is not used anywhere in the backend yet, and apparently the CI Meson builds don't know to run the regression test? That will need to be done too. However, it's okay to keep the benchmarking module in autoconf, since it won't be committed.
> > +static inline void
> > +chunk_children_array_copy(uint8 *src_chunks, rt_node **src_children,
> > + uint8 *dst_chunks, rt_node **dst_children, int count)
> > +{
> > + memcpy(dst_chunks, src_chunks, sizeof(uint8) * count);
> > + memcpy(dst_children, src_children, sizeof(rt_node *) * count);
> > +}
> >
> > gcc generates better code with something like this (but not hard-coded) at the top:
> >
> > if (count > 4)
> > pg_unreachable();
Actually it just now occurred to me there's a bigger issue here: *We* know this code can only get here iff count==4, so why doesn't the compiler know that? I believe it boils down to
static rt_node_kind_info_elem rt_node_kind_info[RT_NODE_KIND_COUNT] = {
In the assembly, I see it checks if there is room in the node by doing a runtime lookup in this array, which is not constant. This might not be important just yet, because I want to base the check on the proposed node capacity instead, but I mention it as a reminder to us to make sure we take all opportunities for the compiler to propagate constants.
--
John Naylor
EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>
> True. I'm going to start with 6 bytes and will consider reducing it to
> 5 bytes.
Okay, let's plan on 6 for now, so we have the worst-case sizes up front. As discussed, I will attempt the size class decoupling after v8 and see how it goes.
> Encoding the kind in a pointer tag could be tricky given DSA
If it turns out to be unworkable, that's life. If it's just tricky, that can certainly be put off for future work. I hope to at least test it out with local memory.
> support so currently I'm thinking to pack the node kind and node
> capacity classes to uint8.
That won't work, if we need 128 for capacity, leaving no bits left. I want the capacity to be a number we can directly compare with the count (we won't ever need to store 256 because that node will never grow). Also, further to my last message, we need to access the kind quickly, without more cycles.
> I've made some progress on investigating DSA support. I've written
> draft patch for that and regression tests passed. I'll share it as a
> separate patch for discussion with v8 radix tree patch.
Great!
> While implementing DSA support, I realized that we may not need to use
> pointer tagging to distinguish between backend-local address or
> dsa_pointer. In order to get a backend-local address from dsa_pointer,
> we need to pass dsa_area like:
I was not clear -- when I see how much code changes to accommodate DSA pointers, I imagine I will pretty much know the places that would be affected by tagging the pointer with the node kind.
Speaking of tests, there is currently no Meson support, but tests pass because this library is not used anywhere in the backend yet, and apparently the CI Meson builds don't know to run the regression test? That will need to be done too. However, it's okay to keep the benchmarking module in autoconf, since it won't be committed.
> > +static inline void
> > +chunk_children_array_copy(uint8 *src_chunks, rt_node **src_children,
> > + uint8 *dst_chunks, rt_node **dst_children, int count)
> > +{
> > + memcpy(dst_chunks, src_chunks, sizeof(uint8) * count);
> > + memcpy(dst_children, src_children, sizeof(rt_node *) * count);
> > +}
> >
> > gcc generates better code with something like this (but not hard-coded) at the top:
> >
> > if (count > 4)
> > pg_unreachable();
Actually it just now occurred to me there's a bigger issue here: *We* know this code can only get here iff count==4, so why doesn't the compiler know that? I believe it boils down to
static rt_node_kind_info_elem rt_node_kind_info[RT_NODE_KIND_COUNT] = {
In the assembly, I see it checks if there is room in the node by doing a runtime lookup in this array, which is not constant. This might not be important just yet, because I want to base the check on the proposed node capacity instead, but I mention it as a reminder to us to make sure we take all opportunities for the compiler to propagate constants.
--
John Naylor
EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
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