Re: patch proposal - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Venkata B Nagothi
Subject Re: patch proposal
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Msg-id CAEyp7J-T=ABJHGfKib3R4RBO2-moPxrUSNeePm-ZfuJwhn8Gbg@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: patch proposal  (Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>)
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
* Venkata B Nagothi (nag1010@gmail.com) wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
> > * Venkata B Nagothi (nag1010@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > Agreed. Additional option like "pause" would. As long as there is an
> > option
> > > to ensure following happens if the recovery target is not reached -
> > >
> > >  a) PG pauses the recovery at the end of the WAL
> > >  b) Generates a warning in the log file saying that recovery target point
> > > is not reached (there is a patch being worked upon on by Thom on this)
> > >  c) Does not open-up the database exiting from the recovery process by
> > > giving room to resume the replay of WALs
> >
> > One thing to consider is just how different this is from simply bringing
> > PG up as a warm standby instead, with the warning added to indicate if
> > the recovery point wasn't reached.
>
> I am referring to a specific scenario (performing point-in time recovery)
> where-in a DBA attempts to bring up a standalone PG instance by restoring
> the backup and performing recovery to a particular recover target (XID,
> time or a named restore point) in the past by replaying all the available
> WAL archives, which is not quite possible through a warm-standby setup.
>
> Warm standby is more of a high-availability solution and i do not think so,
> it addresses PITR kind of situation.

No, a warm standby is one which just plays through the WAL but doesn't
bring the database up or start its own set of WAL, which is what you're
asking about.

I understand that, in warm-standby, PG does continuously replay WAL without bringing up the database as the database will be in standby mode, which sounds ideal.

While recovering the database to a particular recovery target point ( and there is no requirement to setup standby ), then, there is a risk that database will get promoted due to missing or corrupt WALs. Which means, there is no way to avoid promotion and resume WAL recovery. An option like "pause" with a new parameter would be ideal to prevent database promotion at a default recovery target, which is "immediate" or "end-of-WAL".
 
Regards,

Venkata B N
Fujitsu Australia


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