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From Guillaume Lelarge
Subject Re: RFC: a new try for an official community approved certification
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Le ven. 2 juin 2023 à 16:35, Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi046@uottawa.ca> a écrit :
Hi Guillaume,

That's interesting - the PostgreSQL training/testing that Dalibo is offering is in French? 


Yes, that's only available in french.
 
I wonder if we could work out an agreement with Dalibo and build on the training that you have already developed, rather than re-inventing the wheel, so to speak.  That way we're kind of building the unified or standardized English and French training/testing at the same time ('unified' or 'standardized' sounds better to me than 'community developed').


I don't know, but it could be interesting. I'm not sure we did the work to update it to v15, but it sure covers v14. Anyway, I'm not the one who could decide such things :)
 
Just some thoughts :)

Sincerely,
Katie

From: Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume@lelarge.info>
Sent: 02 June 2023 10:06
To: Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi046@uottawa.ca>
Cc: Valeria Kaplan <kaplan.valeria@gmail.com>; Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>; Jaime Casanova <jcasanov@systemguards.com.ec>; PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: a new try for an official community approved certification
 
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Le ven. 2 juin 2023 à 15:13, Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi046@uottawa.ca> a écrit :
Hello all,

Not sure about this idea, but possibly a better one than having a single company (ex. Red Hat and EDB come to mind) run the show for certifications/competency rating.  I like it from this respect.


There are other companies doing PostgreSQL certification. SRA in Japan, and Dalibo in France (disclaimer: I work for Dalibo) offer certification exams for their customers.

I will love the idea if you are able to, somehow, offer the training/testing in languages other than English.  PostgreSQL is an international open source project and English-only training/testing is not very appropriate.  This gives a huge advantage to the community's native English speakers (the goal here is to produce something 'unbiased' I thought).

Perhaps develop it in English, with input from those from non-English speaking countries on your working group, and then have it translated into multiple languages (also: be careful how you prioritize these, but if you have, say, a member from India on your working group, perhaps Hindi becomes one of the first).  


Multiple languages would be a must, I totally agree. Dalibo did its own certification because the community didn't seem to be able to work on a unified one, despite many tries. I'd love to see a unified Postgres certification, and we (Dalibo) would gladly work on this project, but I also am kinda skeptical of the outcome.

Regards.


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Guillaume.


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Guillaume.

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