Re: posix_fadvise() and pg_receivexlog - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Mitsumasa KONDO
Subject Re: posix_fadvise() and pg_receivexlog
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Msg-id CADupcHVhOfpiCQVAfT3PAEcPV8iPe8Z61QHZrcnbHCGShHGr4g@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: posix_fadvise() and pg_receivexlog  (Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>)
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Hi,

2014-08-07 13:47 GMT+09:00 Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>:
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Heikki Linnakangas
<hlinnakangas@vmware.com> wrote:
> On 08/06/2014 08:39 PM, Fujii Masao wrote:
>> The WAL files that pg_receivexlog writes will not be re-read soon
>> basically,
>> so we can advise the OS to release any cached pages when WAL file is
>> closed. I feel inclined to change pg_receivexlog that way. Thought?
>
>
> -1. The OS should be smart enough to not thrash the cache by files that are
> written sequentially and never read.
OS's buffer strategy is optimized for general situation. Do you forget OS hackers discussion last a half of year?
 
Yep, the OS should be so smart, but I'm not sure if it actually is. Maybe not,
so I was thinking that posix_fadvise is called when the server closes WAL file.
That's right.
 
> If we go down this path, we'd need to
> sprinkle posix_fadvises into many, many places.
Why do you aim to be perfect at the beginning?
It is as same as history of postgres, your concern doesn't make sense.


> Anyway, who are we to say that they won't be re-read soon? You might e.g
> have a secondary backup site where you copy the files received by
> pg_receivexlog, as soon as they're completed.

So whether posix_fadvise is called or not needs to be exposed as an
user-configurable option. We would need to measure how useful exposing
that is, though.
By the way, does pg_receivexlog process have fsync() in every WAL commit?
If yes, I think that we need no or less fsync() option for the better performance. It is general in NOSQL storages.
If no, we need fsync() option for more getting reliability and data integrarity. 


Best regards,
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Mitsumasa KONDO

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