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From Dobes Vandermeer
Subject HTTP Frontend? (and a brief thought on materialized views)
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Responses Re: HTTP Frontend? (and a brief thought on materialized views)  (Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>)
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Hi guys,

Something from Josh's recent blog post about summer of code clicked with me - the HTTP / SQL concept.

It was something I'd been thinking about earlier, how people really like HTTP APIs and this is one of the drivers behind adoption of  some "NoSQL" databases out there.

Some things that I think are great about NoSQL that are missing in PostgreSQL are:
  1. The "reduce" function which could be modeled as a kind of materialized view with an index on it.  With materialized views and the ability to pull fields from JSON and XML data structures you could easily do a "NoSQL" database inside of PostgreSQL by saving the document as a big string and then using materialized views to have all kinds of derived data from those documents.  Sounds cool on paper, anyway.
  2. HTTP RESTful API.  This is obviously not as useful as a good admin tool like pgAdmin or a fast binary protocol like we have now but it's way more buzzword compliant and would come in handy sometimes.  With CouchDB I was able to allow "public" data in the database to be accessed directly from the browser using JSONP and/or a simple HTTP proxy in the server instead of doing any of that work within the app server.  So, that saves a step somewhere.  With some basic support for stored procedures and serving files directly via this HTTP thing you could potentially eliminate the app server for public, read-only parts of a site/application.
  3. The perception of extremely low latency and/or high throughput - like fetching a row in less than 1ms or whatever.  I don't know the exact numbers I just know they have to be insanely low (latency) or impressively high (throughput).  We could use PostgreSQL as a query cache to accelerate your MySQL!  Something like that :-P.
  4. Rebelliousness against "the man".  In our case SQL can't be "the man", but we can find something PostgreSQL isn't and position against that.
Anyway, 1&2 seem inspiring to me and I'd love to help out with both.  3&4 seem more like marketing tasks of some sort...

I think I could probably start hacking up an HTTP API of some sort, I wasn't able to log into the PostgreSQL Wiki so I created a page with some notes here:


For materialized views I think that can be a bit of a can of worms, especially if you want to do incremental updates of some sort because you have to figure out what rows need to be recalculated when you update a row in a "source" table, and how best to update them.  But if someone thinks they know how I can assist in implementation.

Anyway, I hope I can help AND that I posted this in the correct mailing list!

Cheers,

Dobes

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