Re: many backends hang on MultiXactOffsetSLRU - Mailing list pgsql-performance

From Amine Tengilimoglu
Subject Re: many backends hang on MultiXactOffsetSLRU
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Msg-id CADTdw-xL6Yqy9WTktx5UjXP0C5SY7meFzM1KAT-cd0C-n6zOoA@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: many backends hang on MultiXactOffsetSLRU  (James Pang <jamespang886@gmail.com>)
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          I hadn't found a satisfactory explanation about the top limit related to SLRU, so this document will be useful. It's a nice development that the relevant limit has been increased in pg17; I hope I don't encounter a situation where this limit is exceeded in large systems.


    Kind regards..  


James Pang <jamespang886@gmail.com>, 10 Eyl 2024 Sal, 11:35 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
    There is no foreign keys, but there is one session who did transactions to tables with savepoints, one savepoints/per sql in same transaction. But sessions with query "SELECT “ do not use savepoints , just with a lot of sessions running same query and hang on MultiXact suddenly.  even only one session doing DML with savepoints , and all other queries sessions can see this kind of "MultiXact" waiting ,right? 
  

James Pang <jamespang886@gmail.com> 於 2024年9月10日週二 下午4:26寫道:
  There is no foreign keys, but there are several sessions who did transactions to tables with savepoints, one savepoints/per sql in same transaction. But sessions with query "SELECT “ do not use savepoints , just with a lot of sessions running same query and hang on MultiXact suddenly.  

Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> 於 2024年9月10日週二 下午4:15寫道:
On 2024-Sep-10, Amine Tengilimoglu wrote:

>      Hi,
>
>            I encountered this in a project we migrated to PostgreSQL
> before, and unfortunately, it’s a situation that completely degrades
> performance. We identified the cause as savepoints being used excessively
> and without control. Once they reduced the number of savepoints, the issue
> was resolved. However, the documentation also mentions that it could be
> caused by foreign keys.

Yeah, it's exactly the same problem; when it comes from savepoints the
issue is pg_subtrans, and when foreign keys are involved, it is
pg_multixact.  Both of those use the SLRU subsystem, which was heavily
modified in pg17 as I mentioned in my reply to James.

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