Re: logical replication: restart_lsn can go backwards (and more), seems broken since 9.4 - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Masahiko Sawada
Subject Re: logical replication: restart_lsn can go backwards (and more), seems broken since 9.4
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Msg-id CAD21AoAqfKQHrnODCn0175tGj-Xx0EL11jV7q3Lf3vyumJ_epA@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: logical replication: restart_lsn can go backwards (and more), seems broken since 9.4  (Tomas Vondra <tomas@vondra.me>)
Responses Re: logical replication: restart_lsn can go backwards (and more), seems broken since 9.4
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On Sat, Nov 9, 2024 at 3:45 AM Tomas Vondra <tomas@vondra.me> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 11/8/24 19:25, Masahiko Sawada wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thank you for investigating this issue.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 10:40 AM Tomas Vondra <tomas@vondra.me> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I kept investigating this, but I haven't made much progress. I still
> >> don't understand why would it be OK to move any of the LSN fields
> >> backwards - certainly for fields like confirm_flush or restart_lsn.
> >>
> >> I did a simple experiment - added asserts to the couple places in
> >> logical.c updating the the LSN fields, checking the value is increased.
> >> But then I simply ran make check-world, instead of the stress test.
> >>
> >> And that actually fails too, 040_standby_failover_slots_sync.pl triggers
> >> this
> >>
> >>     {
> >>         SpinLockAcquire(&MyReplicationSlot->mutex);
> >>         Assert(MyReplicationSlot->data.confirmed_flush <= lsn);
> >>         MyReplicationSlot->data.confirmed_flush = lsn;
> >>         SpinLockRelease(&MyReplicationSlot->mutex);
> >>     }
> >>
> >> So this moves confirm_flush back, albeit only by a tiny amount (I've
> >> seen ~56 byte difference). I don't have an example of this causing an
> >> issue in practice, but I note that CheckPointReplicationSlots does this:
> >>
> >>     if (is_shutdown && SlotIsLogical(s))
> >>     {
> >>         SpinLockAcquire(&s->mutex);
> >>
> >>         if (s->data.invalidated == RS_INVAL_NONE &&
> >>             s->data.confirmed_flush > s->last_saved_confirmed_flush)
> >>         {
> >>             s->just_dirtied = true;
> >>             s->dirty = true;
> >>         }
> >>         SpinLockRelease(&s->mutex);
> >>     }
> >>
> >> to determine if a slot needs to be flushed to disk during checkpoint. So
> >> I guess it's possible we save a slot to disk at some LSN, then the
> >> confirm_flush moves backward, and we fail to sync the slot to disk.
> >>
> >> But I don't have a reproducer for this ...
> >>
> >>
> >> I also noticed a strange difference between LogicalIncreaseXminForSlot
> >> and LogicalIncreaseRestartDecodingForSlot.
> >>
> >> The structure of LogicalIncreaseXminForSlot looks like this:
> >>
> >>     if (TransactionIdPrecedesOrEquals(xmin, slot->data.catalog_xmin))
> >>     {
> >>     }
> >>     else if (current_lsn <= slot->data.confirmed_flush)
> >>     {
> >>         ... update candidate fields ...
> >>     }
> >>     else if (slot->candidate_xmin_lsn == InvalidXLogRecPtr)
> >>     {
> >>         ... update candidate fields ...
> >>     }
> >>
> >> while LogicalIncreaseRestartDecodingForSlot looks like this:
> >>
> >>     if (restart_lsn <= slot->data.restart_lsn)
> >>     {
> >>     }
> >>     else if (current_lsn <= slot->data.confirmed_flush)
> >>     {
> >>         ... update candidate fields ...
> >>     }
> >>
> >>     if (slot->candidate_restart_valid == InvalidXLogRecPtr)
> >>     {
> >>         ... update candidate fields ...
> >>     }
> >>
> >> Notice that LogicalIncreaseXminForSlot has the third block guarded by
> >> "else if", while LogicalIncreaseRestartDecodingForSlot has "if". Isn't
> >> that a bit suspicious, considering the functions do the same thing, just
> >> for different fields? I don't know if this is dangerous, the comments
> >> suggest it may just waste extra effort after reconnect.
> >>
> >
> > I also suspected this point. I still need to investigate if this
> > suspicion is related to the issue but I find this code in
> > LogicalIncreaseRestartDecodingForSlot() is dangerous.
> >
> > We update slot's restart_lsn based on candidate_lsn and
> > candidate_valid upon receiving a feedback message from a subscriber,
> > then clear both fields. Therefore, this code in
> > LogicalIncreaseRestartDecodingForSlot() means that it sets an
> > arbitrary LSN to candidate_restart_lsn after updating slot's
> > restart_lsn.
> >
> > I think an LSN older than slot's restart_lsn can be passed to
> > LogicalIncreaseRestartDecodingForSlot() as restart_lsn for example
> > after logical decoding restarts; My scenario I shared on another
> > thread was that after updating slot's restart_lsn (upon feedback from
> > a subscriber) based on both candidate_restart_lsn and
> > candidate_restart_valid that are remained in the slot, we might call
> > LogicalIncreaseRestartDecodingForSlot() when decoding a RUNNING_XACTS
> > record whose LSN is older than the slot's new restart_lsn. In this
> > case, we end up passing an LSN older than the new restart_lsn to
> > LogicalIncreaseRestartDecodingForSlot(), and that LSN is set to
> > candidate_restart_lsn.
>
> Right, I believe that matches my observations. I only see the issues
> after (unexpected) restarts, say due to network issues, but chances are
> regular reconnects have the same problem.
>
> > My hypothesis is that we wanted to prevent such
> > case by the first if block:
> >
> >     /* don't overwrite if have a newer restart lsn */
> >     if (restart_lsn <= slot->data.restart_lsn)
> >     {
> >     }
> >
>
> Yeah, that condition / comment seems to say exactly that.
>
> Do you plan / expect to work on fixing this? It seems you proposed the
> right fix in that old thread, but it's been inactive since 2023/02 :-(

I'm happy to work on this fix. At that time, I was unsure if my fix
was really correct and there was no further discussion.

Regards,

--
Masahiko Sawada
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com



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