Re: count(*) of zero rows returns 1 - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Gurjeet Singh
Subject Re: count(*) of zero rows returns 1
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In response to Re: count(*) of zero rows returns 1  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
David Johnston <polobo@yahoo.com> writes:
> Tom Lane-2 wrote
>> For that to return zero, it would also be necessary for "SELECT 2+2"
>> to return zero rows.  Which would be consistent with some views of the
>> universe, but not particularly useful.

> Given that:

> SELECT *;
> Results in:
> SQL Error: ERROR:  SELECT * with no tables specified is not valid

That has nothing to do with the number of rows, though.  That's
complaining that there are no columns for the * to refer to.

Interesting to note that SELECT * FROM table_with_zero_cols does not complain of anything.
 
postgres=# select * from test1;
--
(0 rows)

This I believe result of the fact that we allow user to drop all columns of a table.

On a side note, Postgres allows me to do this (which I don't think is a bug or useless): I inserted some rows into a table, and then dropped the columns. The resulting table has no columns, but live rows.

postgres=# select * from test_0_col_table ;
--
(200000 rows)


> I get that the horse has already left the barn on this one but neither "0"
> nor "1" seem particularly sound answers to the question "SELECT count(*)".

Yeah, it's more about convenience than principle.  AFAICS there are three
defensible answers to what an omitted FROM clause ought to mean:

1. It's not legal (the SQL spec's answer).
2. It implicitly means a table of no columns and 1 row (PG's answer).
3. It implicitly means a table of no columns and 0 rows (which is what
   I take Gurjeet to be advocating for).

I wasn't advocating it, but was trying to wrap my head around why Postgres would do something like count(*) of nothing == 1.

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