On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 3:12 PM Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 01:32:45PM +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > I think it boils down to that today the output from initdb is entirely
> > geared towards people running initdb directly and starting their
> > server manually, and very few people outside the actual PostgreSQL
> > developers ever do that. But there are still a lot of people who run
> > initdb through their wrapper manually (for redhat you have to do that,
> > for debian you only have to do it if you're creating a secondary
> > cluster but that still a pretty common operation).
>
> I think the big issue is that pg_upgrade not only output progress
> messages, but created files in the current directory, while initdb, by
> definition, is creating files in PGDATA.
To be clear, my comments above were primarily about initdb, not
pg_upgrade, as that's what Peter was commenting on as well.
pg_upgrade is a somewhat different but also interesting case. I think
the actual progress output is more interesting in pg_upgrade as it's
more likely to take measurable amounts of time. Whereas in initdb,
it's actually the "detected parameter values" that are the most
interesting parts.
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