Re: [HACKERS] pg_upgrade vs extension upgrades - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Magnus Hagander
Subject Re: [HACKERS] pg_upgrade vs extension upgrades
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Msg-id CABUevExCSTixStPct+sp-pj2aqw8XcxPWjm9Xz64q3Bt0cM-dQ@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: [HACKERS] pg_upgrade vs extension upgrades  (Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>)
Responses Re: [HACKERS] pg_upgrade vs extension upgrades  (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>)
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On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 09:02:27PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 12:30 AM, Peter Eisentraut <
> peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
>
>     On 4/10/17 11:30, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>     > After you've run pg_upgrade, you have to loop through all your databases
>     > and do an "ALTER EXTENSION abc UPDATE" once for each extension.
>     >
>     > Is there a reason we shouldn't have pg_upgrade emit a script that does
>     > this, similar to how it emits a script to run ANALYZE?
>
>     Shouldn't pg_dump do this, and perhaps by default? 
>
>
>     If I restore a dump into another instance, I need to upgrade all my
>     extensions to that installations's versions, no?  That's not particular
>     to pg_upgrade.
>
> Sure, there's an argument to be made for that.  But pg_dump (or in this case,
> it would more be pg_restore I guess) also doesn't run ANALYZE or generate a
> script to do that, does it? ISTM that we have already decided that pg_upgrade
> has a different requirement on providing those things, whereas pg_dump/
> pg_restore is more of a low-level tool where people have to figure more things
> out themselves.

Well, pg_upgrade creates ./analyze_new_cluster.sh, but that just
contains:

        "/u/pgsql/bin/vacuumdb" --all --analyze-in-stages

Seems like we should just get rid of ./analyze_new_cluster.sh and tell
the user to run vacuumdb directly.  I guess I will have to wait for PG
11 to do that though.


Yeah, at this point that probably makes a lot of sense, now that we don't need the logic in the script anymore.

FWIW, I'm not sure the feature freeze means we can't *remove* a feature? But I'll defer to others on that.

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