Re: Binary search in ScalarArrayOpExpr for OR'd constant arrays - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From James Coleman
Subject Re: Binary search in ScalarArrayOpExpr for OR'd constant arrays
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In response to Re: Binary search in ScalarArrayOpExpr for OR'd constant arrays  (James Coleman <jtc331@gmail.com>)
Responses Re: Binary search in ScalarArrayOpExpr for OR'd constant arrays  (Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>)
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On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 7:41 PM James Coleman <jtc331@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 4:49 PM Tomas Vondra
> <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 02:46:19PM -0400, James Coleman wrote:
> > >On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 8:31 PM Tomas Vondra
> > ><tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 06:47:41PM -0400, James Coleman wrote:
> > >> >On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 5:41 PM David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 at 00:40, Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> > >> >> > This reminds me our attempts to add bloom filters to hash joins, which I
> > >> >> > think ran into mostly the same challenge of deciding when the bloom
> > >> >> > filter can be useful and is worth the extra work.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Speaking of that, it would be interesting to see how a test where you
> > >> >> write the query as IN(VALUES(...)) instead of IN() compares. It would
> > >> >> be interesting to know if the planner is able to make a more suitable
> > >> >> choice and also to see how all the work over the years to improve Hash
> > >> >> Joins compares to the bsearch with and without the bloom filter.
> > >> >
> > >> >It would be interesting.
> > >> >
> > >> >It also makes one wonder about optimizing these into to hash
> > >> >joins...which I'd thought about over at [1]. I think it'd be a very
> > >> >significant effort though.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> I modified the script to also do the join version of the query. I can
> > >> only run it on my laptop at the moment, so the results may be a bit
> > >> different from those I shared before, but it's interesting I think.
> > >>
> > >> In most cases it's comparable to the binsearch/bloom approach, and in
> > >> some cases it actually beats them quite significantly. It seems to
> > >> depend on how expensive the comparison is - for "int" the comparison is
> > >> very cheap and there's almost no difference. For "text" the comparison
> > >> is much more expensive, and there are significant speedups.
> > >>
> > >> For example the test with 100k lookups in array of 10k elements and 10%
> > >> match probability, the timings are these
> > >>
> > >>    master:  62362 ms
> > >>    binsearch: 201 ms
> > >>    bloom:      65 ms
> > >>    hashjoin:   36 ms
> > >>
> > >> I do think the explanation is fairly simple - the bloom filter
> > >> eliminates about 90% of the expensive comparisons, so it's 20ms plus
> > >> some overhead to build and check the bits. The hash join probably
> > >> eliminates a lot of the remaining comparisons, because the hash table
> > >> is sized to have one tuple per bucket.
> > >>
> > >> Note: I also don't claim the PoC has the most efficient bloom filter
> > >> implementation possible. I'm sure it could be made faster.
> > >>
> > >> Anyway, I'm not sure transforming this to a hash join is worth the
> > >> effort - I agree that seems quite complex. But perhaps this suggest we
> > >> should not be doing binary search and instead just build a simple hash
> > >> table - that seems much simpler, and it'll probably give us about the
> > >> same benefits.
> > >
> > >That's actually what I originally thought about doing, but I chose
> > >binary search since it seemed a lot easier to get off the ground.
> > >
> >
> > OK, that makes perfect sense.
> >
> > >If we instead build a hash is there anything else we need to be
> > >concerned about? For example, work mem? I suppose for the binary
> > >search we already have to expand the array, so perhaps it's not all
> > >that meaningful relative to that...
> > >
> >
> > I don't think we need to be particularly concerned about work_mem. We
> > don't care about it now, and it's not clear to me what we could do about
> > it - we already have the array in memory anyway, so it's a bit futile.
> > Furthermore, if we need to care about it, it probably applies to the
> > binary search too.
> >
> > >I was looking earlier at what our standard hash implementation was,
> > >and it seemed less obvious what was needed to set that up (so binary
> > >search seemed a faster proof of concept). If you happen to have any
> > >pointers to similar usages I should look at, please let me know.
> > >
> >
> > I think the hash join implementation is far too complicated. It has to
> > care about work_mem, so it implements batching, etc. That's a lot of
> > complexity we don't need here. IMO we could use either the usual
> > dynahash, or maybe even the simpler simplehash.
> >
> > FWIW it'd be good to verify the numbers I shared, i.e. checking that the
> > benchmarks makes sense and running it independently. I'm not aware of
> > any issues but it was done late at night and only ran on my laptop.
>
> Some quick calculations (don't have the scripting in a form I can
> attach yet; using this as an opportunity to hack on a genericized
> performance testing framework of sorts) suggest your results are
> correct. I was also testing on my laptop, but I showed 1.) roughly
> equivalent results for IN (VALUES ...) and IN (<list>) for integers,
> but when I switch to (short; average 3 characters long) text values I
> show the hash join on VALUES is twice as fast as the binary search.
>
> Given that, I'm planning to implement this as a hash lookup and share
> a revised patch.

I've attached a patch series as before, but with an additional patch
that switches to using dynahash instead of binary search.

Whereas before the benchmarking ended up with a trimodal distribution
(i.e., master with IN <list>, patch with IN <list>, and either with IN
VALUES), the hash implementation brings us back to an effectively
bimodal distribution -- though the hash scalar array op expression
implementation for text is about 5% faster than the hash join.

Current outstanding thoughts (besides comment/naming cleanup):

- The saop costing needs to be updated to match, as Tomas pointed out.

- Should we be concerned about single execution cases? For example, is
the regression of speed on a simple SELECT x IN something we should
try to defeat by only kicking in the optimization if we execute in a
loop at least twice? That might be of particular interest to pl/pgsql.

- Should we have a test for an operator with a non-strict function?
I'm not aware of any built-in ops that have that characteristic; would
you suggest just creating a fake one for the test?

James

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