Re: Logical replication timeout problem - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 8:28 AM Euler Taveira <euler@eulerto.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022, at 11:27 PM, Amit Kapila wrote:
>
> This is exactly our initial analysis and we have tried a patch on
> these lines and it has a noticeable overhead. See [1]. Calling this
> for each change or each skipped change can bring noticeable overhead
> that is why we decided to call it after a certain threshold (100) of
> skipped changes. Now, surely as mentioned in my previous reply we can
> make it generic such that instead of calling this (update_progress
> function as in the patch) for skipped cases, we call it always. Will
> that make it better?
>
> That's what I have in mind but using a different approach.
>
> > The functions CreateInitDecodingContext and CreateDecodingContext receives the
> > update_progress function as a parameter. These functions are called in 2
> > places: (a) streaming replication protocol (CREATE_REPLICATION_SLOT) and (b)
> > SQL logical decoding functions (pg_logical_*_changes). Case (a) uses
> > WalSndUpdateProgress as a progress function. Case (b) does not have one because
> > it is not required -- local decoding/communication. There is no custom update
> > progress routine for each output plugin which leads me to the question:
> > couldn't we encapsulate the update progress call into the callback functions?
> >
>
> Sorry, I don't get your point. What exactly do you mean by this?
> AFAIS, currently we call this output plugin API in pgoutput functions
> only, do you intend to get it invoked from a different place?
>
> It seems I didn't make myself clear. The callbacks I'm referring to the
> *_cb_wrapper functions. After every ctx->callbacks.foo_cb() call into a
> *_cb_wrapper() function, we have something like:
>
> if (ctx->progress & PGOUTPUT_PROGRESS_FOO)
>     NewUpdateProgress(ctx, false);
>
> The NewUpdateProgress function would contain a logic similar to the
> update_progress() from the proposed patch. (A different function name here just
> to avoid confusion.)
>
> The output plugin is responsible to set ctx->progress with the callback
> variables (for example, PGOUTPUT_PROGRESS_CHANGE for change_cb()) that we would
> like to run NewUpdateProgress.
>

This sounds like a conflicting approach to what we currently do.
Currently, OutputPluginUpdateProgress() is called from the xact
related pgoutput functions like pgoutput_commit_txn(),
pgoutput_prepare_txn(), pgoutput_commit_prepared_txn(), etc. So, if we
follow what you are saying then for some of the APIs like
pgoutput_change/_message/_truncate, we need to set the parameter to
invoke NewUpdateProgress() which will internally call
OutputPluginUpdateProgress(), and for the remaining APIs, we will call
in the corresponding pgoutput_* function. I feel if we want to make it
more generic than the current patch, it is better to directly call
what you are referring to here as NewUpdateProgress() in all remaining
APIs like pgoutput_change/_truncate, etc.

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With Regards,
Amit Kapila.