Re: Avoiding data loss with synchronous replication - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Amit Kapila
Subject Re: Avoiding data loss with synchronous replication
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Msg-id CAA4eK1L2p4NLyhidETqOphcZMv14mTqs6NCO2YpAk470zkFfwQ@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Avoiding data loss with synchronous replication  ("Bossart, Nathan" <bossartn@amazon.com>)
Responses Re: Avoiding data loss with synchronous replication  ("Bossart, Nathan" <bossartn@amazon.com>)
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On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 2:48 AM Bossart, Nathan <bossartn@amazon.com> wrote:
>
> Hi hackers,
>
> As previously discussed [0], canceling synchronous replication waits
> can have the unfortunate side effect of making transactions visible on
> a primary server before they are replicated.  A failover at this time
> would cause such transactions to be lost.  The proposed solution in
> the previous thread [0] involved blocking such cancellations, but many
> had concerns about that approach (e.g., backends could be
> unresponsive, server restarts were still affected by this problem).  I
> would like to propose something more like what Fujii-san suggested [1]
> that would avoid blocking cancellations while still preventing data
> loss.  I believe this is a key missing piece of the synchronous
> replication functionality in PostgreSQL.
>
> AFAICT there are a variety of ways that the aforementioned problem may
> occur:
>   1. Server restarts: As noted in the docs [2], "waiting transactions
>      will be marked fully committed once the primary database
>      recovers."  I think there are a few options for handling this,
>      but the simplest would be to simply failover anytime the primary
>      server shut down.  My proposal may offer other ways of helping
>      with this.
>   2. Backend crashes: If a backend crashes, the postmaster process
>      will restart everything, leading to the same problem described in
>      1.  However, this behavior can be prevented with the
>      restart_after_crash parameter [3].
>   3. Client disconnections: During waits for synchronous replication,
>      interrupt processing is turned off, so disconnected clients
>      actually don't seem to cause a problem.  The server will still
>      wait for synchronous replication to complete prior to making the
>      transaction visible on the primary.
>   4. Query cancellations and backend terminations: This appears to be
>      the only gap where there is no way to avoid potential data loss,
>      and it is the main target of my proposal.
>
> Instead of blocking query cancellations and backend terminations, I
> think we should allow them to proceed, but we should keep the
> transactions marked in-progress so they do not yet become visible to
> sessions on the primary.
>

One naive question, what if the primary gets some error while changing
the status from in-progress to committed? Won't in such a case the
transaction will be visible on standby but not on the primary?

>  Once replication has caught up to the
> the necessary point, the transactions can be marked completed, and
> they would finally become visible.
>

If the session issued the commit is terminated, will this work be done
by some background process?

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With Regards,
Amit Kapila.



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