Re: 16-bit page checksums for 9.2 - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Robert Haas
Subject Re: 16-bit page checksums for 9.2
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Msg-id CA+TgmobS5Otkb_ruNcz9SgepGuK6KO-oDHx+xe54TPPojv40-Q@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: 16-bit page checksums for 9.2  ("Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>)
Responses Re: 16-bit page checksums for 9.2  ("Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>)
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On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Kevin Grittner
<Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov> wrote:
>> When we reach a restartpoint, we fsync everything down to disk and
>> then nuke the double-write buffer.
>
> I think we add to the double-write buffer as we write pages from the
> buffer to disk.  I don't think it makes sense to do potentially
> repeated writes of the same page with different contents to the
> double-write buffer as we go; nor is it a good idea to leave the page
> unsynced and let the double-write buffer grow for a long time.

You may be right.  Currently, though, we only fsync() at
end-of-checkpoint.  So we'd have to think about what to fsync, and how
often, to keep the double-write buffer to a manageable size.  I can't
help thinking that any extra fsyncs are pretty expensive, though,
especially if you have to fsync() every file that's been
double-written before clearing the buffer.  Possibly we could have 2^N
separate buffers based on an N-bit hash of the relfilenode and segment
number, so that we could just fsync 1/(2^N)-th of the open files at a
time.  But even that sounds expensive: writing back lots of dirty data
isn't cheap.  One of the systems I've been doing performance testing
on can sometimes take >15 seconds to write a shutdown checkpoint, and
I'm sure that other people have similar (and worse) problems.

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Robert Haas
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