Re: Read Uncommitted - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Robert Haas
Subject Re: Read Uncommitted
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Msg-id CA+Tgmoaf6Xxf+0JxKiUP+rzGTABQ7-2S8R061+J7tBVyLnBBig@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: Read Uncommitted  (Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>)
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On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 1:06 PM Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> So this is the same discussion as elsewhere about potentially aborted transactions...

Yep.

> AFAIK, the worst that happens in that case is that the reading transaction will end with an ERROR, similar to a
serializableerror.
 

I'm not convinced of that. There's a big difference between a
serializable error, which is an error that is expected to be
user-facing and was designed with that in mind, and just failing a
bunch of random sanity checks all over the backend. If those sanity
checks happen to be less than comprehensive, which I suspect is
likely, there will probably be scenarios where you can crash a backend
and cause a system-wide restart. And you can probably also return just
plain wrong answers to queries in some scenarios.

> Just consider this part of the recovery toolkit.

I agree that it would be useful to have a recovery toolkit for reading
uncommitted data, but I think a lot more thought needs to be given to
how such a thing should be designed. If you just add something called
READ UNCOMMITTED, people are going to expect it to have *way* saner
semantics than this will. They'll use it routinely, not just as a
last-ditch mechanism to recover otherwise-lost data. And I'm
reasonably confident that will not work out well.

-- 
Robert Haas
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The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company



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