Re: Switching to Homebrew as recommended Mac install? - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Robert Haas
Subject Re: Switching to Homebrew as recommended Mac install?
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Msg-id CA+TgmoY0Mm_eW_FAxpjhKC+Wkvkscwk2grLcCccV1fp6b9hojg@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: Switching to Homebrew as recommended Mac install?  (Christopher Browne <cbbrowne@gmail.com>)
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On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Christopher Browne <cbbrowne@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's pretty typical for MacOS applications to require "enter your
> password; I need to su to root to install this!" in plenty of places
> where the UI does not actually tell you what is being done as root.
> After enough iterations of "enter your password so my process can do
> undisclosed admin stuff," I'm not sure that you've got anything more
> secure than you'd have if /usr/local was writable by the desktop user.

I think that's somewhat true.  Part of the reason why Windows is so
crufty is because of lousy privilege separation -- MacOS and even
Ubuntu are now busy copying that design, but realistically people do
need to install software, so short of educating users better or
creating a walled garden it's not clear how much better you can do.
However, Windows has another problem, too: there are so many ways that
you can hook into the system and get control that it's basically
impossible to remove spyware and crapware without its cooperation.  I
mean, you can get rid of some of it, but finding all the little fiddly
pieces that have to be ripped out is basically not doable.  You just
reinstall the machine.

-- 
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company


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