Re: [PATCH] Proposal for HIDDEN/INVISIBLE column - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Dave Page
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In response to Re: [PATCH] Proposal for HIDDEN/INVISIBLE column  (Gilles Darold <gilles@darold.net>)
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On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 2:32 PM Gilles Darold <gilles@darold.net> wrote:
Le 14/10/2021 à 14:28, Pavel Stehule a écrit :


čt 14. 10. 2021 v 14:13 odesílatel Vik Fearing <vik@postgresfriends.org> napsal:
On 10/14/21 1:47 PM, Aleksander Alekseev wrote:
> Hi Gilles,
>
>> Any though and interest in this feature?
>
> Personally, I wouldn't call this feature particularly useful. `SELECT
> *` is intended for people who are working with DBMS directly e.g. via
> psql and want to see ALL columns.

I disagree strongly with this.  It is really annoying when working
interactively with psql on a table that has a PostGIS geometry column,
or any other large blobby type column.

I have not looked at the patch, but +1 for the feature.

Cannot be better to redefine some strategies for output for some types.

I can agree so sometimes in some environments proposed features can be nice, but it can be a strong footgun too.

Maybe some strange data can be filtered in psql and it can be better solution. I agree, so usually print long geometry in psql is useless.


Pavel this doesn't concern only output but input too, think about the INSERT or COPY without a column list. We can add such filter in psql but how about other clients? They all have to implement their own filtering method. I think the HIDDEN attribute provide a common and basic way to implement that in all client application.


I like the idea - being able to hide computed columns such as tsvectors from CRUD queries by default seems like it would be very nice for example.

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