On 28 January 2011 20:55, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
>>> "A Major release changes the internal data format of the cluster.
>>> Due to this change a dump/reload of the cluster is required for major
>>> upgrades for upgrading from 8.2 or earlier.
>>>
>>> If upgrading from version 8.3 and later, certain installs may be able to
>>> use pg_upgrade (previously named pg_migrator). If pg_upgrade is
>>> compatible with your cluster (see the docs) you will able to perform an
>>> in-place upgrades. Although downtime is still required, this is much
>>> quicker than a dump/restore."
>>
>> Based on this discussion from August, I suggest the following patch be
>> applied to versioning.html. It mentions pg_upgrade as an major upgrade
>> option and links to the pg_upgrade page that has all the details.
>
> 1. This is the wrong mailing list for this discussion.
>
> 2. I think the whole point here is that we've had a policy change: we
> are now making an effort to maintain backward compatibility for data
> files, though not for system tables. The docs should reflect that.
>
> Maybe something like:
>
> Major releases usually change the format of system tables. These
> changes are often complex, so we do not maintain backward
> compatibility. Our dump and reload tools do maintain backward
> compatibility and are the most reliable way to perform a major version
> upgrade. Some major releases also change the internal format of data
> files; however, in recent releases, we have made an attempt to
> minimize such changes. In cases where the data file formats have not
> changed, pg_upgrade can also be used for major upgrade version
> upgrades; this is typically much faster than a dump and reload.
Only some major releases change the internal format? I thought it was
best to assume it always did that.
"In cases where the data file formats have not changed"
Don't you mean "have changed"?
"pg_upgrade can also be used for major upgrade version upgrades"
That doesn't read very well. Perhaps remove the first "upgrade".
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