Re: [RFC] A tackle to the leaky VIEWs for RLS - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Robert Haas
Subject Re: [RFC] A tackle to the leaky VIEWs for RLS
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Msg-id AANLkTikLawxkvDQO1t0pUi5ysBxigYbvdLTjg8OZt1gU@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: [RFC] A tackle to the leaky VIEWs for RLS  (Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>)
Responses Re: [RFC] A tackle to the leaky VIEWs for RLS  (KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>)
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2010/6/1 Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>:
> The general problem is that it seems like a nightmare to maintain this
> throughout the planner. Who knows what optimizations this affects, and
> do we need to hide things like row-counts in EXPLAIN output? If we try
> to be very strict, we can expect a stream of CVEs and security releases
> in the future while we find holes and plug them. On the other hand,
> using views to restrict access to underlying tables is a very useful
> feature, so I'd hate to just give up. We need to decide what level of
> isolation we try to accomplish.

I'm entirely uninspired by the idea of trying to prevent all possible
leakage of information via side-channels.  Even if we tried to
obfuscate the explain output, the user can still potentially get some
information by timing how long queries take to execute.  I think if we
have a hook function that can prevent certain users from running
EXPLAIN altogether (and I believe this may already be the case) that's
about the appropriate level of worrying about that case.  I think the
only thing that we can realistically prevent is allowing users to make
off with the actual tuples.

-- 
Robert Haas
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The Enterprise Postgres Company


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