On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>>> Hm... I thought there had been discussion of a couple of different
>>> flavors of table volatility. Is it really a good idea to commandeer
>>> the word "volatile" for this particular one?
>
>> So far I've come up with the following possible behaviors we could
>> theoretically implement:
>
>> 1. Any crash or shutdown truncates the table.
>> 2. Any crash truncates the table, but a clean shutdown does not.
>> 3. A crash truncates the table only if it's been written since the
>> last checkpoint; a clean shutdown does not truncate it.
>
>> The main argument for doing #1 rather than #2 is that we'd rather not
>> have to include unlogged table data in checkpoints. Andres Freund
>> made the argument that we could avoid that anyway, though, by just
>> doing an fsync() on every unlogged table file in the cluster at
>> shutdown time. If that's acceptable, then ISTM there's no benefit to
>> implementing #1 and we should just go with #2. If it's not
>> acceptable, then we have to think about whether and how to have both
>> of those behaviors.
>
>> #3 seems like a lot of work relative to #1 and #2 for a pretty
>> marginal increase in durability.
>
> OK. I agree that #3 adds a lot of complexity for not much of anything.
> If you've got data that's static enough that #3 adds a useful amount
> of safety, then you might as well be keeping it in a regular table.
>
> I think a more relevant question is how complicated it'll be to issue
> those fsyncs --- do you have a concrete implementation in mind?
It can reuse most of the infrastructure we use for re-initializing
everything after a crash or unclean shutdown. We just iterate over
every tablepace/dbspace directory and look for files with _init forks.If we find any then we open the main fork files
andfsync() each one.
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