On Sat, 2021-08-07 at 15:31 -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 12:43 PM Michael Meskes
> <meskes@postgresql.org> wrote:
> > Again, I didn't know the RMT was expecting anything from me. Yes, I
> > knew I needed to spend some time on a technical issues, but that's
> > exactly the information I had at the time.
>
> As Andrew mentioned, I sent you an email on the 30th -- a full week
> prior to the email that formally timeboxed this open item. That
> earlier email is here:
>
> https://postgr.es/m/CAH2-Wzk=QxtSp0H5EKV92EH0u22HVMQLHGwYP4_FA3yTiEi9Yg@mail.gmail.com
This email said nothing about sending a status update or a deadline or
any question at all, only that you'd revert the patch if I was unable
to resolve the issue. So what's your point?
> I also talked about the RMT in the third person. My intent was to
> make
So? It's okay to disrespect a person if you mention the team that you
are representing in the third person, too?
> the message legalistic and impersonal. That's what is driving our
> thinking on this -- the charter of the RMT.
Please show me where the charter says that disrespecting a person is
fine. And while we're add it, does the code of conduct say anything
about the way people should be treated?
> We're all volunteers, just like you. I happen to be a big believer in
> our culture of personal ownership and personal responsibility. But
> you
> simply haven't engaged with us at all.
Which I tried to explain several times, but apparently not well enough.
Let me give you a short rundown from my perspective:
- A patch is sent that I mistakenly thought was a new feature and thus
did not apply time too immediately.
- After a while I get an email from you as spokesperson of the RMT that
if this is not fixed it'll have to be reverted eventually.
- I learn that Andrew tried to reach me. Again, I believe you Andrew,
that you sent the email, but I never saw it. Whether it's some
filtering or a user error that made it disappear, I have no idea, but
I'm surely sorry about that.
- I receive that email we keep talking about, the one in which you
treat me like I'm not even worth being addressed.
> You didn't say anything at all, which speaks for itself. And makes it
> impossible for us to be flexible.
Which flexibility did I ask for? It'd be nice if you only accused me of
things I did.
Honestly I do not understand you at all. You keep treating me like I
was asking for anything unreasonable while I'm only trying to explain
why I didn't act earlier. The only issue I have is the rude treatment
you gave me.
Just for the record, of course I'm going to look into the issue before
your deadline and will send a status update.
Michael
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