Re: A few new options for CHECKPOINT - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Bossart, Nathan
Subject Re: A few new options for CHECKPOINT
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Msg-id 6F4478E0-E9FD-4FBC-8338-139E0B9DCFFE@amazon.com
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In response to Re: A few new options for CHECKPOINT  (Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>)
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On 12/5/20, 9:11 AM, "Stephen Frost" <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
> * Bossart, Nathan (bossartn@amazon.com) wrote:
>> On 12/5/20, 6:41 AM, "Stephen Frost" <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
>> > Assuming we actually want to do this, which I still generally don't
>> > agree with since it isn't really clear if it'll actually end up doing
>> > something, or not, wouldn't it make more sense to have a command that
>> > just sits and waits for the currently running (or next) checkpoint to
>> > complete..?  For the use-case that was explained, at least, we don't
>> > actually need to cause another checkpoint to happen, we just want to
>> > know when a checkpoint has completed, right?
>> 
>> If it's enough to just wait for the current checkpoint to complete or
>> to wait for the next one to complete, I suppose you could just poll
>> pg_control_checkpoint().  I think the only downside is that you could
>> end up sitting idle for a while, especially if checkpoint_timeout is
>> high and checkpoint_completion_target is low.  But, as you point out,
>> that may not be a typically recommended way to configure the system.
>
> Maybe I missed something, but aren't you going to be waiting a while
> with this patch given that it's asking for a spread checkpoint too..?
>
> I agree that you could just monitor for the next checkpoint using
> pg_control_checkpoint(), which is why I'm wondering again what the
> point is behind this patch...  I'm trying to understand why we'd be
> encouraging people to increase the number of checkpoints that are
> happening when they're still going to be waiting around for that spread
> (in other words, non-immediate) checkpoint to happen (just as if they'd
> just waited until the next regular checkpoint), and they're still going
> to have a fair bit of WAL to replay because it'll be however much WAL
> has been written since we started the spread/non-immediate checkpoint.

I plan to mark this patch as withdrawn after the next commitfest
unless anyone objects.

Nathan


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