Re: [PATCH] 2PC state files on shared memory - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Robert Haas
Subject Re: [PATCH] 2PC state files on shared memory
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Msg-id 603c8f070908080644n5f5417bbve956d4ac73472eff@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Re: [PATCH] 2PC state files on shared memory  (Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>)
Responses Re: [PATCH] 2PC state files on shared memory  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
List pgsql-hackers
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Heikki
Linnakangas<heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Based on an idea of Heikki Linnakangas, here is a patch in order to improve
>>> 2PC
>>> by sending the state files of prepared transactions to shared memory instead
>>> of disk.
>>
>> I don't understand how this can possibly work.  The entire point of
>> 2PC is that the state file is guaranteed to be on disk so it will
>> survive a crash.  What good is it if it's in shared memory?
>
> The state files are not fsync'd when they're written, but a copy is
> written to WAL so that it can be replayed on crash. With this patch,
> it's still written to WAL, but the write to a file on disk is skipped,
> and it's stored in shared memory instead.
>
>> Quite aside from that, the fixed size of shared memory makes this seem
>> pretty impractical.
>
> Most state files are small. If one doesn't fit in the area reserved for
> this, it's written to disk as usual. It's just an optimization.
>
> I'm a bit disappointed by the performance gains. I would've expected
> more, given a decent battery-backed-up cache to buffer the WAL fsyncs.
> But it looks like they're still causing the most overhead, even with a
> battery-backed-up cache.

It doesn't seem that surprising to me that a write to shared memory
and a write to an un-fsync'd file would be about the same speed.  The
file write will eventually generate some I/O when it goes to disk, but
at the time you make the system call it's basically just a memory
copy.

...Robert


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