Re: BUG #14046: Bad mathematical rules for 0 cast - Mailing list pgsql-bugs

From Jarosław Stokłosa
Subject Re: BUG #14046: Bad mathematical rules for 0 cast
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Msg-id 56FCD8F6.8090805@nomino.pl
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In response to Re: BUG #14046: Bad mathematical rules for 0 cast  ("David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>)
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W dniu 30/03/2016 o 18:03, David G. Johnston pisze:
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:55 PM, Jarosław Stokłosa <jaroslaw.stoklosa@nomino.pl> wrote:

W dniu 25/03/2016 o 14:32, John McKown pisze:
On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 3:56 AM, <jaroslaw.stoklosa@nomino.pl> wrote:
The following bug has been logged on the website:

Bug reference:      14046
Logged by:          Jarosław Stokłosa
Email address:      jaroslaw.stoklosa@nomino.pl
PostgreSQL version: 9.4.5
Operating system:    x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu
Description:

Below query should return 2 times TRUE.

SELECT cast('+0' as FLOAT) = cast('-0' as FLOAT), cast('+0' as FLOAT)::TEXT
= cast('-0' as FLOAT)::TEXT

+0 and -0 should be casted to +0 or 0.

​How would you propose to implement this "or"?​


I propose for TEXT cast '-0'::FLOAT and '+0'::FLOAT to '0'::TEXT - like '-0'::NUMERIC::TEXT,  '+0'::NUMERIC::TEXT
 




​ I humbly disagree with you. PostgreSQL use IEEE 754 for floating point (mainly because that is what most - not all - computers today use). IEEE 754 distinguishes +0 (or just 0) from -0. cast('-0' as FLOAT) results in an IEEE 754 negative zero. Which is not identically equal to a positive zero. The case to TEXT should, and does, preserve this non-identical difference. ​

I'm disagee with you. PostgreSQL don't distinguish +0 from -0 because cast('+0' as FLOAT) = cast('-0' as FLOAT) equals to TRUE. This is math rules. So case to float then to text shoud, and doesn't, preserve the equality. IEEE754 describes storage numbers in computer's memory but doesn't turn off math comparation rules. 

Agreed.  It is the cast to text turns off math comparison rules.


I understand, that convert to text can produce trouble with comparation - Tom Lane give example in this thread, but in this case IEEE 754 doesn't prohibit to show zero without sign. NUMERIC is an example.

Regards
Jarek Stokłosa

 

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